Satya saves the stock price in time for Monday. Genius.
Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#392It seems that Microsoft is the big winner in this story, well played.
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#393I'm guessing this is the end of OpenAI. People aren't going to want to work at OpenAI anymore due to the value destruction that just occurred. It's going to be hard for them to raise money now because of the bad rep they have now. It going to be hard for them to hire top talent. You have two leaders, top engineers and researchers leaving the company. Google and Facebook come in a grab up any top talent that still the…
They're going to have to give up control of the board to get more investment. No investor wants these loose cannons in charge of their investments.
> No investor wants these loose cannons in charge of their investments.
The board just proved to stay on the companys core values.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#394Additional info from a Linked-in follow-up comment by Satya:
"I’m super excited to have Sam join as CEO of this new group, setting a new pace for innovation. We’ve learned a lot over the years about how to give founders and innovators space to build independent identities and cultures within Microsoft, including GitHub, Mojang Studios, and LinkedIn, and I’m looking forward to having Sam and team do the same."
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#395[This is not in response to the satya's tweet but the general articles or opinions in social media.] Please keep in mind that the articles you read are PR pieces, last few being from Sam's Camp. msft/sequioa/khosla has no power to remove the board or alter their actions. There is no gain for board by reinstating Sam and resigning themselves. swaying employees who have 900k$ comp is pretty hard. and not giving money t…
You might be missing the point. Those 900k$ are tied onto future company value that is based on success of its products in 2-3y horizon.
Without sam and his push for products the comp may not be there…
So all employees who signed up for a exponential growth will jump ship.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#396I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever…
OpenAI's ideas of humanities best interests were like a catholic mom's. Less morals are okay by me.
There might be a reason why the board doesn't consist of armchair experts on Hacker News.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#397I didn't know one can be "CEO" of some group within a company.
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#398Earlier quoted context omitted.
Satya will probably allow them to run a startup under the MS umbrella without interference and with full MS backing.
Yeah... Not really how a mega-corp like MSFT does things. They LOVE to have control.
The game studios under Xbox run quite independently with the most extreme example being Mojang with Minecraft which still releases all their games on Playstation/Nintendo consoles too. But the other studios are also very independent based on all the interviews (though they don't in general release their games on Playstation or Switch)
As I understand Github is also run very independently from Microsoft in general.
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#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
You might notice that Microsoft shareholders are also part of humanity and destroying humanity would be highly detrimental to Microsoft's profits, so maybe their interests are not as misaligned as you think. I am always bemused by how people assume any corporate interest is automatically a cartoon supervillain who wants to destroy the entire world just because.
The mega rich have been building bunkers and preparing for the downfall of humanity for a long time now. Look around and you'll notice that greed wins out over everything else. We're surrounded by companies doing nothing or only small token gestures to protect humanity or the world we live in and instead focusing on getting rich, because getting rich is exactly why people become shareholders. Don't rely on those guys…
Yeah that makes sense. Work your whole life building a company worth billions of dollars so that you can burn down the world and live in a bunker eating canned beans until the roving bands of marauders flush you out and burn you alive. I'm sure that was their greedy plan to enjoy eating canned beans in peace!
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#400What is Sam's actual value re: AI and not just as a CEO/salesman-evangelist to get funding, which Microsoft doesn't need? Is he particularly apt at leading/managing research teams? OpenAI's slow productization doesn't imply he's a product/idea guy a la Jobs.
that is what i thought, when Sam was fired, i think he is kind of people can be replaced by AI generated something ( ai-ceo ), not that complicate compare to engineer or scientist. and another replaceable one is Satya Nadella. and the ai-ceo maybe much less evil than them, since they are the one convert ( i am not sure if they committed fraud ) the non-profit, open source entity to for-profit and closed source entity…
yeah, Elon Musk invested tons of money to start openai as non-profit to make sure this openai thing is for all, not for couple of people to shine themself.