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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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alephxyz wrote: post #254
endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

Bring sunglasses (and ear protection while you're at it) when going to a concert.

I'd rather not go at all at that point. Why bother going to a musical performance when you are just going to muffle the sound.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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unsupp0rted wrote: post #269

Normally HN is HN. In these comments HN is Reddit: cheap sarcastic “haha I’m smart they’re dumb” jokes. Very little curiosity or intriguing anecdotes, just “I was smart enough to identify NFTs were a scam from the get-go, so now enjoy your eye damage losers”. It’s a cheap way to feel good about oneself, but it makes us look like what our detractors say we look like.

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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by fennecfoxy »

rospaya wrote: post #148
pavlov wrote: post #13

The Financial Times [1] has attendee numbers: “About 2,250 people attended the Saturday evening party at a cruise terminal, said organiser Yuga Labs, one of the pioneers in this market. Since then, more than a dozen have posted on social media complaining of a burning sensation in the eyes and sometimes also impaired vision.” Honestly that’s a lot more proud Bored Ape bagholders than I would have guessed. But what do…

I'm more interested in the gender distribution.

Skewed towards male for most events involving technology. Does it matter?

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by Yadayadaaaa »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #240
Yadayadaaaa wrote: post #162

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Why not? Its called Schadenfreude and tbh the amount of NFT or Crypto scams, garbage and co people had to endure the last years is horrendes. Its one thing to state in a comment that you shouldn't use NFT or crypto, but unfortunate we are not discussing banning them activly.

What is this horrible suffering people had to endure? IMO, it was basically all self inflicted anguish due to "someone else is wrong on the internet" syndrome. If someone wants to gamble their money away, you don't have to care. If they want to talk about it, you don't have to listen. People act like living in a world with people who act differently was some kind of ordeal. they have totally lost the ability to not e…

The billions of Dollars taken by people not understanding it from the cryptobros.

Lots and lots of people didn't just lose 'play money'

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by codetrotter »

LelouBil wrote: post #385
codetrotter wrote: post #333

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> you write a random string and save it on a blockchain, which becomes the NFT. From there, you can use a lookup table to map the NFT to a URL that links to an image that's stored on the owner's server The way which they are mapped to images vary from NFT to NFT. But let's look at Bored Ape Yacht Club specifically. Collection https://opensea.io/collection/boredapeyachtclub Pick a random bored ape. For example #1337.…

Thanks for the explanation, it makes a bit more sense that it is an ipfs URL.

As mentioned though, it varies between different NFT projects. Some NFT projects lazily use Google Drive links etc instead. And then the files in the Google Drive could later be modified or deleted.

See for example https://web3isgoinggreat.com/?tech=nft&id=goblintown-nft-ima...

> Goblintown NFT images all changed to an illustrated middle finger in protest about royalties

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Post by RenThraysk »

anon84873628 wrote: post #291
seanp2k2 wrote: post #256

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oof, yeah those were powerful UV-C disinfecting bulbs. I've got half a dozen Elektralite eyeBall UV fixtures that I use for parties in conjunction with other lights, which are 18x3w 385nm UV LEDs per fixture. I don't stare directly into them as they're pretty intense, but they're still firmly in UV-A territory and don't hurt your eyes. They do light up anything fluorescent super bright though! - UVA (315-400 nanomete…

Since you are familiar with the topic: So now when I go to a place with blacklights, how do I know someone didn't get confused (or is just ignorant) and used bulbs that can burn my eyes? Thanks.

An ozone smell can be an indicator.

UVC will break O2 into two Oxygen atoms, which then combine with other O2 to form O3, ozone.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by sanderjd »

userbinator wrote: post #365
sanderjd wrote: post #300

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What? I've seen lots of tubes that may or may not have been clear, I really don't know, emitting light blue glows. Like, I used to go into Spencer's at the local mall a couple decades ago... I would have no clue what the difference is here.

They're made of a distinctively clear quartz glass (used because regular glass is quite effective at blocking UVC), and you can see the filaments at the ends. Hopefully you won't have to ever experience looking at a lit UVC tube, but they appear very different from regular fluorescents. The comment here has a link to a previous incident of this happening, which shows what UVC tubes look like: https://news.ycombinator…

Well, good to know! Thanks! But this would not have previously been obvious to me at all.

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Post by JohnFen »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #212
JohnFen wrote: post #81

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A couple of years ago, I had a mishap with a moderately powerful laser, meant for engraving, grazing quickly across my left eye (I was wearing appropriate eye protection). It wasn't until the next day that it started feeling like someone poured sand in it. It took a few days to return to normal.

If you were wearing appropriate eye protection, this would not have been possible.

Appropriate eye protection does not provide 100% protection. Outside of a welder's helmet, maybe, even the best eye protection won't stop a reasonably powerful laser beam directed straight into your eye. It will reduce its intensity, though. The main benefit of wearing it is that even the diffuse, scattered light bouncing off of the walls is hazardous, and the eye protection stops that. Without it, you couldn't safely be in the same room as an operating laser even if the beam never comes near you.

If I had not been wearing it, there is an excellent chance that I would have suffered permanent vision damage. The eye protection I wore did exactly what it was supposed to do.

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Post by yunwal »

mandmandam wrote: post #207
yunwal wrote: post #184

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Fast and fee-less? Does that work on a distributed ledger? Is there some magic I’m missing to make consensus quick and cheap? Micro-transactions were never going to be feasible considering gas fees required to run a sufficiently secure blockchain app. Decentralized? I’m still confused. Has anyone actually solved the Oracle problem with crypto? How are we actually getting decentralization? Anti-spam??????? Ok that’s l…

Block lattice tech has been around for seven years. All your points would be answered by looking into it - it's not a secret. Eg, Nano uses it. It's been working, efficient, safe, fast ( It's tending toward decentralization because there's no mining, no staking, and there was a genuinely fair distribution. Fee-less transactions come with bad actors spamming the network with microscopic transactions, like a DDOS. So,…

Block lattice is IMO far too unwieldy to use, and is useless for decentralization unless the system you're making payments on is actually yours, meaning you can't use it for real-world payments.

Also, still nothing solves the oracle problem. Any form of crypto does nothing for any transaction that doesn't purely take place in digital space. This really is never the case, even when people claim it is. People always use the "NFTs could be used for concert tickets" example, but when it comes down to it, the venue still has to physically let you in.

Same with DNS. Sure, you could have a record put on a blockchain, but somewhere down the road, you're gonna have to be routed through a DNS server owned by someone, and the decision to use a decentralized record is purely theirs. At some point, there's some centralized entity that needs to be trusted or regulated.

As long as the thing being bought/sold with crypto can't be decentralized (nearly everything), you're still kicking the centralization can down the road, and spending a whole bunch of time and energy doing it.

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