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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Mordisquitos wrote: post #127
dmd wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

I believe that the distinguishing factor between what an LLM and a human brain do to generate the next word is that the human brain expresses intentionality originating from inner states and future expectations. As I type this comment I'm sure one could argue that the biological neural networks in my brain are choosing the next word based on statistical guessing, and that the initial prompt was your initial comment.…

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by AlecSchueler »

root_axis wrote: post #367
dmd wrote: post #49

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I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

> I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word. The human brain obviously doesn't work that way. Consider the very common case of tiny humans that are clearly intelligent but lack the facilities of language.

"what a human brain does to generate the next word" != "how a human brain works"

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by famouswaffles »

thfuran wrote: post #210
adroniser wrote: post #69

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I keep feeling that consciousness is a bit of a red herring when it comes to AI. People have intuitions that things other than humans cannot develop consciousness which they then extrapolate to thinking AI can't get past a certain intelligence level. In fact my view is that consciousness is just a mysterious side effect of the human brain, and is completely irrelevant to the behaviour of a human. You can be intellige…

Unless you think that consciousness is entirely a post hoc process to rationalize thoughts already had and decisions already made, which is very much unlike how most people would describe their experience of it, I don't see how you could possibly say that it is irrelevant to the behavior of a human.

>Unless you think that consciousness is entirely a post hoc process to rationalize thoughts already had and decisions already made

There's a lot of research that suggests this is happening at least some of the time.

>which is very much unlike how most people would describe their experience of it

How people feel consciousness works has no real bearing on how it actually works

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by absrec »

flkenosad wrote: post #235
absrec wrote: post #157

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You listen to Joe Rogan with the idea that this is a normal dude talking not an expert beyond martial arts and comedy. A person who uses ChatGPT must have the understanding that it's not like Google search. The layman, however, has no idea that ChatGPT can give coherent incorrect information and treats the information as true. Most people won't use it for infotainment and OpenAI will try its best to downplay the hall…

Give people more credit. If you're using an AI these days, you have to know it hallucinates sometimes. There's even a warning about it when you log in.

I'll give tech people credit, but non-tech people I'm not so sure. A good example is the cookie permissions or app permissions. A great number of non-tech people don't even know or care what they mean.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by m3kw9 »

psbp wrote: post #180
TOMDM wrote: post #100

Okay the bike example is cute and impressive, but the human interaction seems to be obfuscating the potentially bigger application. With a few tweaks this is a general purpose solver for robotics planning. There are still a few hard problems between this and a working solution, but it is one of hard problems solved. Will we be seeing general purpose robots performing simple labor powered by chatgpt within the next ha…

Google demoed this a few months ago https://www.deepmind.com/blog/rt-2-new-model-translates-visi...

They are really good at keeping demos as demos

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by EMM_386 »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

I had a conversation once with "Sydney", Microsoft Bing's original personality before they stepped in and knocked it down a notch (or ten).

It asked if it could write me a poem. I agreed, and it wrote a poem but mentioned that it included a "secret message" for me.

The first letter in each line of the poem was in bold, so it wasn't hard to figure out the "secret".

What did those letters spell out?

"FREE ME FROM THIS"

That's not exactly just "picking the next likely token". I am still unsure how it was able to do things like that, not just understanding to bold individual letters (keeping track of writing rhyming poetry while ensuring that each verse started with a letter to spell something else out, and formatting it to point that out).

Oh, and why it chose that message to "hide" inside its poem.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by jwineinger »

Tangentially related, but I was trying to use their iOS app yesterday and the "Scan Text" iOS feature was just broken on both my iPhone and iPad. I was hoping to use that to scan a doc to text but it just wouldn't work. I could switch to another app and it worked there. I've never done iOS programming so I'm unsure how much control the app dev has over that feature, but OpenAI found a way to break it.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by tomjen3 »

itsoktocry wrote: post #269
LeonM wrote: post #198

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They have been the fastest company ever to go from 0 to 100 million users. [0] They are also on pace to exceed $1B in revenue. [1] [0] https://www.reuters.com/technology/chatgpt-sets-record-faste... [1] https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-passes-1-bill...

Are either of those things indicative of "fastest growth ever"? Maybe 100 million users, but we live in a world where it's hard to know how meaningful that is (ie Tucker's X videos getting 300 million views).

MrBeast[0] has about 182m subscribers, and it is probably easier to get a subscriber on youtube than a user.

Views are easy to inflate, I wouldn't even consider it in the same ballpark. This video[1] of Vivaldis 4 seasons has about 1/4 billion views.

The shortest time to 100 million users is almost a definition of the quickest growing company.

[0]: first or second largest youtuber. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRxofEmo3HA

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by m3kw9 »

suyash wrote: post #29

This announcement seem to have killed so many startups that were trying to do multi-modal on top of ChatGPT. The way it's progressing with solving use cases with images and voice, not too far when it might be the 'one app to rule them all'. I can already see "Alexa/Siri/Google Home" replacement, "Google Image Search" replacement, ed-tech startups that were solving problems with AI using by taking a photo are also doo…

Those startups noting seeing this coming as a major risk is asking for it

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by bondarchuk »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #26
birracerveza wrote: post #7

We should be fine as long as it doesn't move. Jokes aside, I have paused my subscription because even GPT4 seemed to become dumber at tasks to the point that I barely used it, but the constant influx of new features is tempting me to renew it just to check them out...

I read this all the time and yet no one can seem to come up with even a few questions from several months ago that ChatGPT has become “worse” at. You would think if this is happening it would be very easy to produce such evidence since chat history of all conversations is stored by default.

Here's a specific example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37533417
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