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Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Stupid question, why doesn't htmx parse the response html and extract from that the relevant data out needs to fulfill the configuration? Feels a bit cumbersome to return the exact part of the response on server side, like the next page of the table, if it was requested with htmx, else return the full page. This way htmx would be even easier to implement in any front-end. Or maybe I am just crazy. Edit: or is it this…

This is how unpoly works (it receives the whole response and patches the page with the correct part of that response).

Oh that's cool!

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Interesting how you equate a simple desire to have the ability to delete comments (ostensibly a site-supported function) with "concealing abuses" -- it says more about your own projection than anything else. All you've done above is make baseless assumptions and imply accusations against kitanata with no basis or merit. Might want to check your own actions out before you go accusing others of "egregious abuse" - and…

deleting comments is supported for 2 hours if nobody has replied > All you've done above is make baseless assumptions and imply accusations against kitanata with no basis or merit. though you see nothing wrong with their behavior, kitanata has been banned from the site for abuse two hours ago as explained in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37150880 judging from the number of your comments that have been killed t…

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Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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> Much of your business logic can live in the backend, and it keeps your frontend really tiny. Ah, so "with htmx you can use any language" is true because its users are no longer using a programming language per se for the front-end, but instead are defining logic with htmx's DSL?

htmx extends html to generalize a behaviour that already exists, so it's as much a DSL as html itself is a DSL

Or Vue, yes! ("DSL" wasn't meant as a negative, I just didn't know what else one would call htmx additions.)

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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You realize your Googling doesn't make you an expert, right? It's very easy to be an American sitting in BA and judging things from what you've read on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean you have the slightest actual understanding of the law or its application in China. When you can read it in Mandarin and you've lived under and seen that particular law being applied in China, come back to me -- until then, keep your a…

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Ah, so now you're telling me where I live, pretty arrogant of you, narcissism confirmed.

SEVERAL people have literally linked you repeatedly to multiple sources covering the (frankly old news by now) so-called "right to be forgotten" -- it isn't a literal right to be forgotten, it concerns data protection -- which you well know, but you're evidently choosing to take it literally and make narcissistic trolling rants.

You don't have much in the way of self-awareness if you can't grasp that trying to tell people where they supposedly live and what they supposedly think, while making antisemitic allegories, is completely ridiculous, and frankly a Nazi-esque move.

(Cue you going "but Jewish girlfriend!" as if the "I can't be racist because I have a Black friend" argument has ANY merit, when it doesn't -- you can absolutely still make antisemitic remarks and connotations regardless of whoever you claim to be with)

Five years from now you'll still be telling people what to do and having the audacity to tell them what they THINK, when (a) you haven't got a clue, and (b) you still blindly claim you're not arrogant, condescending, or narcissistic, when making remarks like you just did.

Please, seek psychological help. If the evidence of your assumption-laden, baseless-claim-filled, farcical comments are anything to go by, you have serious issues that go beyond being a troll on HN.

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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hi there, as many of you know, i am the creator of htmx and I'm happy to answer any questions about it htmx has seen a surge in popularity, triggered by a video by fireship dev ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GSGH2RxJs ) and a series of videos by ThePrimeagen, a popular twitch streamer on it hacker news readers might be interested in the essays I have written on htmx & hypermedia in general here: https://htmx.org…

Do you think that at some point in the future, browsers could bundle in htmx or something similar, and that we could imagine web pages that have javascript disabled but with great interactivity due to htmx? This could perhaps be used as a security feature.

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Not sure if your “Dear god” is negatively targeted at my comment - I’ll assume it’s a general show of exasperation. How likely is it every API will adhere to that though?

Yeah, just exasperation. For the longest time, most APIs would return json if you asked for json, or xml if you requested xml. Many older api's still do content negotiation, many gave up because 'xml bad'.

Yeah, I remember a lot of apis that were something like `resource/instance.json` or `resource/instance.xml` and they'd give you `instance` in whatever the requested format was

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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if you sincerely wish to understand how htmx is different than the current SPA-talking-to-a-JSON-API approach I would start here: https://htmx.org/essays/hypermedia-driven-applications/ and then work through the rest of the essays: https://htmx.org/essays/

Thank you, reading now - do genuinely want to know. I understand how my message came across, but I do intentionally reflect how many attempts there have been to change the paradigm so far.

Not a valid excuse, dude. You have every right to be skeptical or to avoid "bleeding edge" but to assume the whole thing is just a front to raise someone's speaking/blogging/social media profile, to buzz in from nowhere and start off by declaring that it's going to "die" is not the way to act if you "genuinely want to know."

Recursivedoubts has legitimately demonstrated he's not a one-trick pony (previously built intercooler, concurrently building hyperscript) and he deals with skeptics like yourself dozens of times every time an HTMX article gets posted on this site (which all seem to go to #1, if that serves as an indicator of the library's popularity). He handles himself with grace and patience and humor, far better than most of us would do.

You don't even state what your "current approach" happens to be in order for him, or anyone else, to provide you with a satisfactory answer.

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Awesome work! I love the simplicity of htmx. It’s one of those tools that makes me feel super productive. Will there ever be a “htmx“ for building mobile apps?

there already is! https://hyperview.org/ Adam Stepinski, the creator of Hypreview, built it after his experience with intercooler.js, the predecessor to htmx. It is a very interesting piece of technology and, through the magic of HATEOAS, allows you to update your mobile app instantly for all your users, without dealing with the mobile store! There is an entire section on Hyperview, written by Adam, in part three of…

Amazing! Gonna check it out. Thank you!

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deleting comments is supported for 2 hours if nobody has replied > All you've done above is make baseless assumptions and imply accusations against kitanata with no basis or merit. though you see nothing wrong with their behavior, kitanata has been banned from the site for abuse two hours ago as explained in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37150880 judging from the number of your comments that have been killed t…

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Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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hi there, as many of you know, i am the creator of htmx and I'm happy to answer any questions about it htmx has seen a surge in popularity, triggered by a video by fireship dev ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GSGH2RxJs ) and a series of videos by ThePrimeagen, a popular twitch streamer on it hacker news readers might be interested in the essays I have written on htmx & hypermedia in general here: https://htmx.org…

Hello, Maybe stupid question, but what are the downstream implications for folks like Vercel/Netlify/etc. who bet the farm on complex server rendered JS pipelines?

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