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Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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Seeing this makes me wonder if it's some sort of server-side header bidding ad server gone haywire, rather than something nefarious. Why would they only delay browser agents otherwise?

Probably a phishing/malware scan gone wrong then. NYTimes has Twitterbot in its robots.txt which might be related? Even if it's deliberate, I don't see how people can complain. Google has outright blocked Breitbart for years. They prevent results from that domain from appearing at all unless you specifically force it with site: and apparently HN does the same. Politically motivated censorship and restricting "reach"…

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Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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> So you think secretive measures more often defeat spammers than trusting users? Yes. And it's really not a close question. "Regular users" don't have to be platform experts and learn tricks and stuff. They just post normal links and comments and never run into moderation at all.

> They just post normal links and comments and never run into moderation at all. On the contrary, secret suppression is extremely common. Every social media user has probably been moderated at some point without their knowledge. Look up a random reddit user. Chances are they have a removed comment in their recent history, e.g. [1]. All comment removals on Reddit are shadow removals. If you use Reddit with any frequen…

I'm talking specifically about HN, not reddit.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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post #179

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Seeing this makes me wonder if it's some sort of server-side header bidding ad server gone haywire, rather than something nefarious. Why would they only delay browser agents otherwise?

Probably a phishing/malware scan gone wrong then. NYTimes has Twitterbot in its robots.txt which might be related? Even if it's deliberate, I don't see how people can complain. Google has outright blocked Breitbart for years. They prevent results from that domain from appearing at all unless you specifically force it with site: and apparently HN does the same. Politically motivated censorship and restricting "reach"…

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Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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This is what I have come to expect from every person that calls themselves a "free speech absolutist." What they actually believe is that they should be able to say whatever they want and do whatever they want, personally, without any consequences for themselves. There is no grander principle than "my ability to do what I want and exert power over others however I want, without critique or criticism." I really wish t…

Disclaimer: I am not comparing Twitter to warlords, dictators or genocide. But this quote (from Lord of War ) really encapsulates a lot of what you say: > Yuri Orlov: [Narrating] Every faction in Africa calls themselves by these noble names - Liberation this, Patriotic that, Democratic Republic of something-or-other... I guess they can't own up to what they usually are: the Federation of Worse Oppressors Than the Las…

History truly is a circle

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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I just took a benchmark using hyperfine. Not threads.net, cURL User-Agent: 224.3 ms Not threads.net, Firefox User-Agent: 227.4 ms threads.net, cURL User-Agent: 223.9 ms threads.net, Firefox User-Agent: 2743 ms Twitter is trying to hide this fact? (As they don't make delay w/o browser User-Agent) (Full log: https://gist.github.com/sevenc-nanashi/c77d18df6a5f326b0d292... )

thanks for sharing this!

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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This is what I have come to expect from every person that calls themselves a "free speech absolutist." What they actually believe is that they should be able to say whatever they want and do whatever they want, personally, without any consequences for themselves. There is no grander principle than "my ability to do what I want and exert power over others however I want, without critique or criticism." I really wish t…

Time for news orgs to boycott Twitter, just like NPR did.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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post #307

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No, in fact now t.co even returns an empty body with it's 301 response: % curl -vgsSw' &1 | grep '^

You didn't read the second paragraph of the comment you replied to-- which explained this exact issue before you replied "no": > You don't see this with curl/wget because they use user agent sniffing. If they don't think you're a browser they _will_ give you a Location header. To see it, capture a request in Firefox developer tools, right click on the request, copy as CURL.

Indeed, sorry everyone

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post #360

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Mastodon has been a breath of fresh air and you can get a really interesting feed going when you follow the right people and hashtags

Which people and hashtags? Trying to check it out but struggling to find relevant content. Is there a tech community somewhere? The ones I found appeared to be dead.

Fosstodon is a good place to start maybe? Plenty of tech on Mastodon, hopefully other interests will follow.

Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains

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> Restricting speech is always in the interests of those that have the power to shape discussions, so limiting speech is always counter productive. This is not true. Restricting hate speech is an obvious counterexample.

It isn't obvious at all. It doesn't help for that matter, but that is secondary. On the contrary, it is just a popular excuse to restrict speech because nothing about hate speech is objective. We see bad legislation around the globe and that will never protect any minority. It is a bad idea and damaging and there is ample empirical evidence for that.

Please, link to the ample evidence. Quality research only, natch.
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