It doesn’t take much public creativity to stand out as a job candidate • Hacker News Board

Re: It doesn’t take much public creativity to stand out as a job candidate

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Post by hbn » Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 2:05 PM UTC

alain94040 wrote: post #295

I’ve spent nearly twenty years blogging, giving talks and releasing open source code. [...] I’ve interviewed hundreds of people [...] The vast majority of candidates have little to no evidence of creativity in public at all Are we sure the author is not showing some unconscious bias by looking in others for traits he has (public creativity)? There is no particular reason why public creativity is linked to good engine…

> There is no particular reason why public creativity is linked to good engineers.

He never claimed it means you're a good engineer. It's advice for standing out among other applicants when you're looking for a job.

Re: It doesn’t take much public creativity to stand out as a job candidate

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Post by gavinhoward » Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 2:20 PM UTC

pcthrowaway wrote: post #360

gavinhoward wrote: post #294

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I'm already infamous for my personal opinions in the tech world. Will removing he personal posts and putting them on a separate blog really work? (I do already have a domain.) I'm not so sure it would work. By the time I thought about it, I had already gone viral on HN and the personal attacks had started.

Yes, absolutely, it will work fine. People on the Internet don't have that long of a memory and many people will not have seen your articles on HN. No one is going to look your site up on the wayback machine. You can also ask dang to delete some of your posts on HN if it helps disassociate your name from discussions like these (though I doubt most people would think to look you up on HN based on a name)

Okay, thank you.

But I'm still going to carry when I feel I need to.

Re: It doesn’t take much public creativity to stand out as a job candidate

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Post by freedomben » Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 4:38 PM UTC

BeetleB wrote: post #337

ativzzz wrote: post #293

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> Frankly, I think if people won't hire because of a post like this, then the interviewers are the one contributing to the problem. Totally disagree. For the vast majority of software dev jobs (like 98% of them), you just want someone who shows up and does the work without making much of a fuss. People who openly demonstrate that they are difficult to work with are freely signaling "do not hire me, I will make your l…

> For the vast majority of software dev jobs (like 98% of them), you just want someone who shows up and does the work without making much of a fuss. For the vast majority of people who post stuff like that on their blog, they show up and do the work without making much of a fuss. I know because I've worked with several of them.

Same. Finding out the politics and personal views of some of the people I've worked with would curl most people's toes! But they show and and work without making much of a fuss. In fact they have been some of my favorite people to work with.

Re: It doesn’t take much public creativity to stand out as a job candidate

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Post by freedomben » Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 4:41 PM UTC

pcthrowaway wrote: post #379

BeetleB wrote: post #264

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Eh. Nothing that you quoted would concern me about this person. I am anti-gun and vote that way, but I am mature enough to see the other side's perspective. If a person says he refuses to use Rust because because they prohibit firearms, then as a person I would find it quite understandable, and as an interviewer I would bring it up in the interview to point out that he'll have to work with whatever tech stack we use,…

> as an interviewer I would bring it up in the interview to point out that he'll have to work with whatever tech stack we use, and should we switch to Rust, would it be a problem? And you'd have no problem with your coworkers always keeping a gun on them? This seems like a recipe for a workplace incident

GP carries concealed, so by definition you wouldn't know. If you did know, then it's no longer concealed and that's a different issue.

But (depending on where you live) you'd also be surprised how many coworkers carry guns with them. At one company I was shocked. HR put a policy prohibiting concealed carry, and damn near 80% of my team took serious issue with it. It felt like I had accidentally walked into an NRA meeting or something. There were never any issues, and we tended to get into some heated arguments at that place. Turns out most gun carriers recognize and respect the gun and don't just pull it out and start shooting people every time they get offended.

Re: It doesn’t take much public creativity to stand out as a job candidate

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Post by flangola7 » Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 5:26 PM UTC

schumpeter wrote: post #248

wiseowise wrote: post #124

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They’re boycotting business for complying with government regulations. It’s petty and it’s stupid.

Would you have felt that way when people were boycotting buses in the Jim Crow south?

There's a difference between boycotting ethical laws and unethical laws. Do you really need it spoonfed to you?

Re: It doesn’t take much public creativity to stand out as a job candidate

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Post by sph » Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 5:52 PM UTC

maccard wrote: post #389

sph wrote: post #186

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I should be able to mention it en passant without having to dive deep into my opinions of the matter which are wholly unrelated and just a way to entrap me. The discussion is around identity, and mentioning that these days only gender identity is a corporate-acceptable struggle. I claim that identity in general should be celebrated. I shan't be afraid to say, on my blog I'm an anarchist, or, for argument's sake, I'm…

> I should be able to mention it en passant without having to dive deep into my opinions of the matter which are wholly unrelated No, you don't get to do that on any topic. If you write a blog post on a programming language feature, and in the middle of your post decide to slip in a note about your feelings on the middle east conflict, web3/crypto or your political opinions, expect people to talk about that. You deci…

> you shoehorn in a dog whistle

This is why social media is shit today. It's full of people unable to sustain intelligent discussion, so they try to find hidden meaning behind someone else's words.

You see a dog whistle, I see a person that gets off doing online witch hunts, instead of simply knowing how to disagree. If you have to resort to the personal attack, it's quite obvious there is no intelligent argument to be had here.

This is not Twitter. Good day.