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I'm really curious as to why Macron govt is looked up to by a lot of Americans. American citizens, with all of the country's flaws, tends to have a lot more inherent civil rights than most of these governments.
Fear leads to support for authoritarianism. Covid, climate, nuclear war, economic uncertainty, etc.
French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
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#392Earlier quoted context omitted.
The act of going to Syria to fight on either side is a crime in itself.
Then why weren't they arrested for that instead? I am not familiar with French law. Is that literally a crime or are you saying it as an expression?
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> the people arrested have a far left ideology, have been to Syria to fight against the Islamic state, own weapons and encrypt all of their communications Is there a place where we can read more about this? The article seems to explain none of that context, it only purports that people are suspicious and can be arrested for simply having good 'digital hygiene'. Edit: Some relevant passages from TFA > Likewise, the cr…
> “members” of this movement are alledgedly showing “a great culture of secrecy […] and a certain reserve towards technology”. So caring about one's human right to privacy is a "culture of secrecy" now
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He used emergency powers to pass the law because he knew such law would hardly survive the regular legisative process. It might not be a Putin-style dictatorships but its definitively heading in the wrong direction. And thats without mentionning the use of abuse of administration prohibitions towards anti-racist associations and environmental groups.
How would it ever pass normal legislative process? If I tell you that you have spend two more years working and there's no benefit for you at all, would you vote for it?
unless we are talking about handling a national crisis, or avoiding a US-style shutdown, then avoiding a vote may be legitimate under specific circumstances.
but I doubt pension reforms fall under national emergencies
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#395Situation in France will not end well. Both rule of law and liberal democracy are increasingly damaged. Our institutions are so weak that we are one election away from a complete disaster. Our constitution always concentrated a lot of power in the hand of the president but there is no effective counter-power left. The government set multiple precedent that violate freedom of assembly and association and parliamentary…
> [...] l’utilisation de messageries chiffrées grand public, sont instrumentalisées comme autant de « preuves » d’une soi-disant « clandestinité » qui ne peut s’expliquer que par l’existence d’un projet terroriste.
Sure, using encryption must mean I have terroistic ambitions... they say public officials lack creativity, but... but at least the government got convicted for their attempts at prosecution. Means the justice system is still functioning.
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#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
As you can see from other replies: - the French people did not care that they had to sign a paper to get out to walk - that we closed libraries and forbade people from buying clothes in supermarkets - that Macron has been in charge of the country's finances for over a decade with horrid results (+600B€ in debt) - that Macron did everything he said he would not, and said a lot of things that would be treason in a reas…
"the French people did not care that they had to sign a paper to get out to walk" 1- Don't you think this is quite political? Like what is your benefit from saying this out of context? If signing this paper and being stricter helped the hospitals not being saturated and saved x thousands lives do you still think it was a bad thing? (I'm not even saying that's the case I'm just saying you don't seem to take that possi…
We’re discussing politics.
> Like what is your benefit from saying this out of context?
What does that even mean? Are you insinuating they’re being paid to say that? How do we know you’re not paid to counter them?
> If signing this paper and being stricter helped the hospitals not being saturated and saved x thousands lives do you still think it was a bad thing?
The problem is you and no one else could prove now or then that giving up my human rights would save lives. Because its all pointless lip service to take power away from the people under the guise of “protection”. Just like with encryption, personal weapons, and everything else that governments don’t want us to have.
> I'm just saying you don't seem to take that possibility into account at all
And I’m saying you haven’t taken into account that you’re an Authoritarian apologist.
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If some Neo-nazis co-organize a protest, and it becomes violent, do you blame the neo-nazis? Just wondering if your reasoning is based on logic or political sides.
Depend which kind of Neo-Nazi organization (they are illegal in France and most of them in France do like to punch people and say it), and co-organized with whom, and depend on what is saying these Neo-Nazi But for sure I do blame Neo-Nazi for being Neo-Nazi !
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Classic French answer confusing the fairly good situation in the country for a disaster. France has been for the past sixty years and remains an extremely technocratic country. Counter-powers are still everywhere in the administration. The judiciary system is fully independent and works well. The balance between the parliament and the executive is extremely in favour of the president (which is still elected every fiv…
Oh yeah everyone must work harder, for some reason we have more technology than ever before and more people than ever before, but we all must work harder. There's enough food and energy if we so choose but no; artificial crisis from coughs to barbarian hordes on the horizon mean you must be poorer and work harder. We could all just actually wake up and realise they are lying they are always lying. They dare not tell…
I have yet to met a protester who can explain to me how burning cars and picketing is going to magically move down the median age of the population which is slowly but surely drifting towards 50. Considering most French also don’t want to rely on immigration (not that the country is attractive anyway), I guess they are either planning to force people to make kids at gunpoint or are strongly in denial.
Don’t hesitate to explain who is this mysterious "they" who are apparently responsible of everything wrong in the country.
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Wait for the next election in Germany. AfD has just climbed to the 2nd place with 20% of support and is still growing. Believe or not, one day you will miss someone like Orban.
> Believe or not, one day you will miss someone like Orban. I think you're sugarcoating the statement. Any type of authoritarianism is bad, would you mind elaborating why AfD would be worse than what Orban or Duda or even Erdogan are doing to their countries?
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I think maybe because the rest of the world sees those changes he pushed through as incredibly mild he increased the pension age because people are getting older and the state will not be able to afford it? wow what a crazy dictator
He used emergency powers to pass the law because he knew such law would hardly survive the regular legisative process. It might not be a Putin-style dictatorships but its definitively heading in the wrong direction. And thats without mentionning the use of abuse of administration prohibitions towards anti-racist associations and environmental groups.