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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by galuvian »

tbatchelli wrote: post #177
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

Maybe we'll have paid mods, but not paid by Reddit, but paid with people and organizations with money, an agenda, and some societal changes in mind.

I'm pretty sure that's already happening in some cases, and not for the good of society.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by mrtranscendence »

silverbax88 wrote: post #80
ck2 wrote: post #24

I still don't get what alternative everyone is going to. There isn't one. At least not similar or consensus. Weird to burn bridges without a plan.

Lemmy's user base doubled since Monday and heading towards 200,000 plus right now. I definitely think there's a migration, even if it isn't all of Reddit.

I guess I'll try Lemmy again, but I'm not hopeful. When I used it last week any sub-community I was interested in either didn't exist or was completely dead.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by [deleted] »

mcguire wrote: post #352
jdminhbg wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't think that's the case. If you want to mod r/politics, you don't just raise your hand and then get mod powers. Moderators are a closed group.

What is the process for starting a new subreddit?

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by johannes1234321 »

colinsane wrote: post #353
johannes1234321 wrote: post #60

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The thing is: By being on reddit the barrier to enter a small niche community is low. Having to register with a new account, when maybe the favorite username is taken already is a barrier, even if it takes just few minutes.

wait that’s the opposite: reddit uses a flat username space, whereas the federated ones have a hierarchical namespace that reduces collisions. there can only be one “johannes” on Reddit, but right now there can be 200-300 “johannes” on Lemmy (rendered “johannes@ ” when viewed from a foreign instance).

Assuming Lemmy will be "the winner" currently it is a small player, where differ etc instances already stop federating each other, thus splitting the community early.

If not at each forum I have to decide which variant of my name I pick and then remember. On reddit I could take that choice once for a huge number of forums. (as long as I was willing to share identity over different subreddits)

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by hinkley »

Timon3 wrote: post #294
hinkley wrote: post #208

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I’m gonna ban everyone who complains about Ted Lasso. Barbecue sauce.

The worst part about Ted Lasso was that there wasn't more Ted Lasso in it!

Your account has been suspended for 24 hours.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by odiroot »

alecco wrote: post #151
mjamesaustin wrote: post #23

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I was confused at first by the federated nature of Lemmy, but making an account was easy and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now. The important thing to note – even though you join a particular Lemmy "instance", it doesn't particularly matter which one, because you can subscribe to communities (subreddits) from any instance. The instance I joined – vlemmy.net An aggregator of communities to join – https://lemmyverse.net/c…

Seems lemmy community has some issues. https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives....

Incredible. Tankies managed to infiltrate it, before it even became remotely popular.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by mattmaroon »

jdbernard wrote: post #351
mattmaroon wrote: post #234

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Yeah. I get the whole fear of the same thing happening to Reddit that happened to Digg. But digg had Reddit nipping at its heels and it was still small, Reddit is huge there’s nowhere to chase them to. The other alternative is for Reddit to just stand by and let the blackouts chase people away indefinitely. It is hard to imagine that is better. It will upset the people who have already decided to leave Reddit anyway,…

The other other alternative is for Reddit to meaningfully engage with the issues that the mods have raised around API pricing.

They’ve clearly considered and rejected that idea.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by hackinthebochs »

pseudalopex wrote: post #375
hackinthebochs wrote: post #362

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That's not how it works. If you want to claim some poll as evidence of user sentiment, you have to prove that it is representative.

Do you claim all polls are brigaded until disproven? Or those you don't like?

No, just the ones that people are strongly motivated to brigade, and ones where I saw discussion of discord groups where links to such polls were posted to mobilize brigaders. But none of that should matter. If you claim your poll is representative, you need to demonstrate it. Don't make claims that outpace your evidence. It's not that hard.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by BryantD »

bbor wrote: post #103
ahahahahah wrote: post #78

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> mods are already power hungry lunatics and your most obsessed power hungry mod I mean, here you are just describing the mods that are holding these subreddits hostage. It seems appropriate for reddit to return these to the community in the case where the obsessed power hungry mod's behavior goes against what the community wants.

Have there been any subreddits that voted to open instead of stay closed? All the ones I’ve heard about were in favor of maintaining the protest

I run a thousand member subreddit that is probably going to vote to stay open. Insignificant but it’s a data point.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by BryantD »

slaymaker1907 wrote: post #370
bbor wrote: post #103

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Have there been any subreddits that voted to open instead of stay closed? All the ones I’ve heard about were in favor of maintaining the protest

r/NewOrleans and r/SaltLakeCity voted to end it. There has also been rampant brigading from the pro-blackout side (see r/magicTCG, in addition to a Twitch stream brigade users on r/freemagic talked about voting in the poll despite being banned from r/magicTCG). I’m curious how r/FanFiction will go since they’re doing much more robust polling with karma requirements to stop brigades.

There’s been brigading from both sides, it’s just more noticeable when it’s an outcome you personally disagree with. I’m having to remind myself that just because a) my subreddit has someone who’s never posted there vehemently arguing to stay open and b) staying open is winning the poll, that doesn’t mean it’s a brigade.

(There would be more people voting if it was a brigade, so I’m pretty sure it’s not. But emotionally it bugs me.)

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