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Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

#391

Obvious LOL. Stupid question, but did anyone ever /trust/ online social sites to do what they claimed when it came to managing user data?

i was under the impression they have to because of gdpr

I was under the impression that if the data doesn't personally identify a person, GDPR doesn't apply.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

#392

Obvious LOL. Stupid question, but did anyone ever /trust/ online social sites to do what they claimed when it came to managing user data?

I have a mental test that I always do when trying to evaluate the privacy protection guarantee offered by an online service, it goes like this: imagine if a malicious actor is holding the top most owner of the service at gun point, and demanding for my user data, will the owner risk their own life to obey the privacy agreement?

Probably not. Of course, the mental test is very extreme, but it proofs that the guarantees offered will fail and be violated when some threshold is exceed. It's not a sign and done deal.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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I also recently made a browser extension because those two tools are outdated / hard to use: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bulk-delete-reddit... Let me know if you try it! Still developing and would love feedback.

Personally I'd love to have an upvote and subreddit filter. So "delete all comments except the ones on /r/askscience or the ones with above 100 upvotes".

Shreddit does that.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Wow wow, Isn't this the violation of the Europen GDPR privacy laws. If you deletd it then they should actually be deleted, otherwise you are violating the laws.

Is it? I understand that the GDPR allows you to request deletion of your private data, but content you’ve published isn’t quite the same. At the very least, Reddit’s TOS claim a perpetual irrevocable license to that content Does the GDPR have a separate provision for requesting the deletion of published content, or are people just assuming it falls under the private data rules?

Copyright doesn't work like that and comments are protected by copyright

Reddit is up against the laws that even bigger assholes had made to fuck over people who use copyright material without explicit permission...

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

#396

Hanlon's razor. Anyone who has used Reddit for any period of time (or basically any similar site, which includes FB, Twitter, and even HN), has seen data consistency issues during high load (like periods of activism). Shards die or fall out of quorum, work queues get purged, etc. That's the reality of systems with a lot of very low value data. Eventually consistent, but also perpetually inconsistent.

That would easily explain comments coming back that were hours old or even days old, but it's extremely unlikely to explain comments coming back that were months or years old, as others in this thread have found. No database shard would ever have been left that far out of date due to high load. The only Hanlon's razor I can imagine here is somebody wrote a query to try to undelete something small (intending a single…

> (I do actually think this is the most likely, because there's zero benefit for Reddit here.)

The obvious benefit would be to artificially keep interaction rates high by "grave robbing" old comments and accounts.

"Nobody is ever going to notice, those accounts are long dead!"

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Reddit's privacy policy here seems to be pretty clear [0] > Deleting Your Account > You may delete your account information at any time from the user preferences page. You can also submit a request to delete the personal information Reddit maintains about you by following the process described below this table. When you delete your account, your profile is no longer visible to other users and disassociated from conte…

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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

#398
post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would easily explain comments coming back that were hours old or even days old, but it's extremely unlikely to explain comments coming back that were months or years old, as others in this thread have found. No database shard would ever have been left that far out of date due to high load. The only Hanlon's razor I can imagine here is somebody wrote a query to try to undelete something small (intending a single…

> (I do actually think this is the most likely, because there's zero benefit for Reddit here.) The obvious benefit would be to artificially keep interaction rates high by "grave robbing" old comments and accounts. "Nobody is ever going to notice, those accounts are long dead!"

What interaction rates? For what ends?

The metrics you use to attract investment are things like monthly active users, and whether a comment was deleted after it was made doesn't affect that at all.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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This will be interesting if reddit conducts business (sells ads) in the EU. Hard to see how having such old backups of user content isn't in violation of the GDPR.

How do you work GDPR in the context of a site like Wikipedia where the data is licensed CC and iterated on repeatedly by other users in the future? Do you have to flatly delete every sentence (or word) they’ve worked on? Does publishing the dataset as CC sidestep GDPR? Because Reddit has published their dataset via fh-bigquery:Reddit in the past etc. Using GDPR adversarially like this is interesting and I’m not sure…

They don't hold exclusive copyright to the work, only a portion of it, usually without copyright at all due to the volume of the work they produced.

Typically, a sentence fragment cannot be protected by copyright. The average edit is little more than that.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

#400

There has been a constant stream of negative top HN posts about Reddit for a few weeks now, even if they often get manually pushed down from the front page. Was there ever a comparable shitstorm on HN against a big corp? Will this go down as the fastest suicide of a social media company?

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