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Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by chaosbolt »

cmiles74 wrote: post #15

IMHO, Reddit's charging such a high price for API access that it's as good as unattainable is more of a last straw then anything else. Reddit has been clear that they view the data as their sole property, when you think it through, why be a moderator for a for-profit company if you aren't being paid? I don't know why it took this long for moderators to quit.

Because mods there get paid by external actors to promote X content and delete Y.

It's been known for ever, do prople think these guys just shit money? And the "sensitive" content deletes itself?

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by DropInIn »

On the topic of alternatives:

The current options suck.

A proposal to address the failures of extant options:

Users hold their own data in the account they use for SSO

Every comment post etc is in your own account, with sites putting a request in the page from your SSO host

The front page is defined by your choice of site or SSO provider.

Eg I have a site and users can login with Google or make an account with my SSO provider, when they post a reference pointer is stored and the content is "reported" to the SSO provider by both the client and server with only those items reported by both being "validated" and stored. When site serves page with that content it puts in a js snippet that pulls the content item from the appropriate server.

This means users have full control over their content, sites don't have to host as much content, SSO services have better monetization options (Subs or Sales of Data Analysis) while sites don't lose thiers, etc

Subforums would just be different servers/sites, with your chosen frontend aggregating them all like a new age interactive RSS

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by bick_nyers »

ddingus wrote: post #307
bick_nyers wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been trying to fix first layer adhesion issues on my 3D printer and all of the relevant subreddits went private. So there's more subs participating than just the popular ones.

Try a Garolite Bed. Get a sheet about 1 to 2mm thick. Yes, that is PCB material. It is fantastic! Use the smaller sized office clamps to hold it in place. These can be placed on a few sides. Check that they do not collide with your printhead. Then, prep it with a light ScotchBrite scrub. Just enough to see the light abrasive marks and a bit of texture in the surface. Finish with high purity isopropyl and a dry cloth…

Some notes about my setup: Ender 3 v2 (textured glass bed), added a CR Touch, swapped out the bronze for a hardened steel nozzle, and installed Klipper firmware. I have PLA, PLA+, and PETG, I dried the PETG at I think 140F (convection oven) for 6ish hours, and then was finally able to print a Benchy boat if I set my first layer print speed to 5-10mm/s. I tried to print something that had small shapes on the first layer (small circles for a bolt to go into) with no luck. I was never able to get PLA or PLA+ to print, now even with the same gcode I can't get PETG to lay down properly. Eventually it just curls up towards the nozzle, then gets dragged and clogs. Can't even print a raft. The only adhesive I have tried so far is a mixture of wood glue and water. I've cleaned the bed with soap, acetone, alcohol, you name it.

I live in a very humid state, but I wouldn't expect my PETG to reabsorb moisture in the 2ish days after I dried it, can't print a Benchy or even just one of those single layer square tests you use for testing your leveling.

I just soaked basically my entire printhead/extruder/nozzle in acetone to clean it out, I tried doing cold pulls with all 3 materials, but the filament would just snap off instead of give me that clean nozzle shape you are supposed to get.

All that info. doesn't really inform my question for you, but I kind of wanted to rant a little bit :)

Is G10 better than say a textured PEI sheet for first layer adhesion? Ideally I would like to primarily print everything in PETG for its physical characteristics (heat, water, strength). Is it true that G10 can easily be gouged by the nozzle? I am a bit worried by that considering the cheapest I can find a G10 sheet for on amazon is $30.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by Sunspark »

traverseda wrote: post #260
chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

I'm the head mod of a pretty big subreddit, /r/3Dprinting, with 7 million views a month and 1.8 million subscribers. At the beginning of this I set up a lemmy instance at https://rhombik.com and linked to it from that subreddit. From the roughly 150k uniques per day we had on /r/3Dprinting zero of them have tried the lemmy instance. So make of that what you will.

Speaking for myself here, I hate the Lemmy user interface.. do I really need lots of wasted screen space on the left and right sides of my screen? I also have issues with the expanded line spacing.. I have never liked reading text that is 1.5-3 spaced instead of single-spaced.. the colours they choose and the text size are also issues for me. I don't like white text on a grey background for example.

Lemmy as a user interface is not well designed. It wasn't made to be read on a web browser in a monitor. It was made to be read on a small smartphone screen.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by bamfly »

nullityrofl wrote: post #387
chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

Federated services will never become mainstream. This is just the reality that people need to come to accept. I find them heavily talked about in circles with my colleagues and in my profession but the attraction of decentralized services just isn't there for the vast majority of people. I find Lemmy frustrating to use and it isn't just growing pains: it's the same reason I find Mastodon frustrating. Do I care if use…

Works for email. There are only a few big hosts and some larger-but-not-huge number of mid-sized ones, sure, but they all play nicely with one another. Like if you could post on Twitter from your Facebook account.

Of course, I doubt we could create email today, if it didn't already exist.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by monnok »

elxr wrote: post #146
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #44

major subreddits keeping reddit alive basically: r/politics r/worldnews r/movies r/tech r/television r/news r/technology r/gadgets r/sports minor ones i've noticed: r/indieheads r/boxing It's a pretty serious blackout, but it'd be even more serious if those went dark too (and stayed dark).

r/sports isn't as active as a lot of the major sports subreddits IMO. Any serious sports discussions would be on sport-specific subs. r/nba r/nfl r/formula1 r/mma Those are some major ones still private. Quite disappointing that r/soccer decided to re-open though. Would've made a significant impact.

I can’t figure out r/sports’s moderation rules. Every now and then I will accidentally reply there because something bubbles up to my front page. I discovered 90% of my comments there get deleted without explanation.

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Post by kortilla »

bbor wrote: post #118
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sure that fact will really pump up demand for their IPO.

Is this sarcastic or am I missing some point? More users == more money, and India is the biggest under-tapped single market in social media, if you consider it a "single market". I don't get why being popular in India would be a bad thing...

Yeah, at a high level more users == more money, but not all users are created equal.

Indian users cost the same as US users in operational load but are worth a fraction of the advertising revenue.

As long as they are net positive it’s good for reddit, but the fact that reddit was struggling to make money on the biggest margin users does not bode well.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by jug6ernaut »

koonsolo wrote: post #329

This whole thing is for sure an outraged mob that the internet sees plenty of times. Just look at this poll for r/indiedev: https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieDev/comments/149uqfc/rindiedev... Majority of votes want it closed down, and basically all comments want to keep it open. You don't have to be a community member to vote, so this can mean only 1 thing: users from outside of r/indiedev are voting to close it. edit: i…

There is really no reason to comment if your vote is to shut down the sub. The position is already known and well described. What would the posts be? "I agree"?

Vs if you want the sub to stay open and are against the shutdown, your position is not obvious, and has value in explaining why you are against it.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by chongli »

nullityrofl wrote: post #387
chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

Federated services will never become mainstream. This is just the reality that people need to come to accept. I find them heavily talked about in circles with my colleagues and in my profession but the attraction of decentralized services just isn't there for the vast majority of people. I find Lemmy frustrating to use and it isn't just growing pains: it's the same reason I find Mastodon frustrating. Do I care if use…

Centralization works. It's convenient. It doesn't require a user guide. It's approachable for laypersons.

It works until it doesn’t: when the host of a centralized community decides to make enemies with its users. This is an old story for many people who went through the Digg to Reddit migration.

Now people have had enough. Our communities are too important to leave in the hands of one company. It’s time for all the people who create 100% of the value on Reddit to have control over their own community’s future.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by nullityrofl »

bamfly wrote: post #395
nullityrofl wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Federated services will never become mainstream. This is just the reality that people need to come to accept. I find them heavily talked about in circles with my colleagues and in my profession but the attraction of decentralized services just isn't there for the vast majority of people. I find Lemmy frustrating to use and it isn't just growing pains: it's the same reason I find Mastodon frustrating. Do I care if use…

Works for email. There are only a few big hosts and some larger-but-not-huge number of mid-sized ones, sure, but they all play nicely with one another. Like if you could post on Twitter from your Facebook account. Of course, I doubt we could create email today, if it didn't already exist.

Email works because despite it's decentralized nature, it's functionally transparent to the user and you aren't constantly forced to acknowledge that nature.

The issue with "Fediverse" technologies is not dissimilar from crypto: it's designers care more about the ideology and the concept of being in the fediverse than they do meeting an actual product need.

In spite of a _dire_ gap in the market place and a substantial marketing opportunity to pick up market share, Lemmy and Mastodon remain largely unadopted by the masses and will likely remain in a similar market place as Diaspora*.

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