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Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by xor25519 » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 9:03 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #102

yyyk wrote: post #99

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You're a car manufacturer, you suck at software. Right now, it's mainly a cost center for you. There are two options that may be preferable: 1. Bail out of infotainment and let others deal with the software, that way at least you aren't paying for this. If you go for an open source/standard, maybe you can commoditize your complement. 2. Monetize it somehow, with the (dis)advantage of owning your stack as much as poss…

Option 3 is that Google and Apple pay me to take care of this problem. Why wouldn't I just do that?

Probably because software will be the most important criterion for choosing a car and you as a manufacturer won't be replaced by Google and Apple (who both develop their own cars). However, you suck at developing software and people are already using Google and Apple, so you will get replaced by Google and Apple anyway.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by bborud » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 11:00 AM UTC

TrapLord_Rhodo wrote: post #306

bborud wrote: post #226

Ideally, my car would look like a BT speaker, possibly with a microphone and some controls, to the phone. I don't want a dedicated satnav, I don't want an elaborate in-car entertainment system. The reason is twofold. The first is that all of these in-car systems are pretty dated even after a couple of years. The second is that they tend to be fairly low quality to begin with. The system in my car that integrates with…

It sounds like you've given up completely on what a car infotainment could be because car companies suck at software so bad. I had an old GMC Canyon through college, and the only thing it had was Aux. After college i bought a model 3 when they first came out and I absolutely love the infotainment system. I love that I can play witcher 3 on my Tesla. My bluetooth always connects. I can unlock my car with my app and it…

At some point it will fail. You will not be able to fix it yourself. And if it is even fixable, it will cost you a fortune to fix. Let's talk in another 10 years and a few cars later how you feel about it then.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by TrapLord_Rhodo » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 1:42 PM UTC

bborud wrote: post #392

TrapLord_Rhodo wrote: post #306

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It sounds like you've given up completely on what a car infotainment could be because car companies suck at software so bad. I had an old GMC Canyon through college, and the only thing it had was Aux. After college i bought a model 3 when they first came out and I absolutely love the infotainment system. I love that I can play witcher 3 on my Tesla. My bluetooth always connects. I can unlock my car with my app and it…

At some point it will fail. You will not be able to fix it yourself. And if it is even fixable, it will cost you a fortune to fix. Let's talk in another 10 years and a few cars later how you feel about it then.

Tesla's hold their value better than any other car on the market. In 10 years, i'll spend an order of magnitude less on maintainance than every other car on the market.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by coolspot » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:48 AM UTC

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #373

coolspot wrote: post #345

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I think you can use wired CarPlay in Kia even though it has wireless. I use wired in my 2023 Kia and love it!

Interesting...I'll check this out next time I'm driving. Hope you're right! I'd love to be freed from the tyranny of Bluetooth :)

Note that usb-c doesn’t work for carplay, you will have to use usb-a

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by thegeneralist » Fri, Apr 21, 2023, 10:32 PM UTC

This is truly a foolish idea. Do they not see how their customers use their car? And carplay?

Will definitely hurt GM sales, big time, and probably take several years to undo the damage. The innovation and speed to launch new services on carplay dwarfs whatever GM can do on its own, even with google, given the slowness of OEM software development and testing.