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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by now__what »

ALittleLight wrote: post #365
hgsgm wrote: post #245

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Yes, Musk bought the Founder title from Eberhard. In some countries, "moral rights" ban the practice of buying and selling the right to change facts like authorship.

You're allowing your personal feelings for Musk to interfere with facts. Musk provided money, design, and leadership at critical early stages of the company. He's obviously a founder and you are simply wrong for disputing that.

It sounds like he was an influential early investor, but the situation you've described isn't what I would typically think of as "founding" a company. I'm surely not alone in this, thus the present debate. This isn't to diminish Musk's huge influence either; but folks tend not to love when the meanings of words are changed for PR.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by ctvo »

arbitrage wrote: post #317
ctvo wrote: post #78

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> While some of the behaviour here is less professional than I'd expect for user data It's like showing up to a school shooting and saying while some of the behavior here is less professional than I'd expect for an interaction with children... They. Are. Sharing. Your. Intimate. Photos. Using. Them. As. Background. For. Their. Memes.

You. Took. Intimate. Photos. In. A. Car. Made. By. A. Company. With. A. Horrible. Track. Record. Of. Security. And. Actually. Acting. Like. A. Professional. Company. What. Did. You. Really. Expect. Would. Happen.

Are you trying to say my skirt was too short? I'm not sure I follow.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by lm28469 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #255
varun_chopra wrote: post #32

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

What you must understand is that this is human nature not "private companies." When I was in high school I had a friend who worked at one of those 1-hr photo processing places. People would bring their film in to have prints made. And there were no small numbers of "intimate" photos on those rolls of film. Yes even in the days of film cameras, people took photos of themselves in sexual situations. Of course my friend…

> What you must understand is that this is human nature not "private companies."

Everything is human nature that's why we have laws and regulations

You shouldn't even be able to access prod data as a simple employee, especially in payment company

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by blibble »

henriquez wrote: post #296
PakG1 wrote: post #263

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https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks

I think Zuckerberg is a sociopath but this chat log often gets dredged up and it’s never been verified. It could be real but it could be an urban legend or an internet echo or the reincarnation of tubgirl.

20 years later it still perfectly sums up facebook's business model

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by JohnFen »

robocat wrote: post #337
henriquez wrote: post #319

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I think it’s more disturbing that Zuckerberg named his company Meta in reference to a fictional dystopia where an antagonistic billionaire monopolist who runs a V.R. universe tries to literally control the minds of the world population both on and offline to become more powerful than world governments. Hubris is arrogance before the gods but what do you call the same before the devils? TL;DR: there is factual stuff Z…

> named his company Meta in reference to a fictional dystopia Meta is a normal developer word - like Uber was. I personally never even knew there was a movie called Meta, although it is entirely obvious there should be at least one. Not saying Zuck wasn’t referencing the movie, but I am saying it is reasonably likely that wasn’t the reason.

Uber was a normal developer word?? I don't remember hearing it used in developer circles.

As to meta, yes, it's a common dev word. But Facebook is using it as short for "metaverse", which Zuck has admitted to lifting from Snow Crash's dystopian world.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by btilly »

avg_dev wrote: post #356
btilly wrote: post #349

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Sorry, that code is strictly worse. Because while the website on the laptop looks fine, there is a database on the laptop which has all the sensitive information. Anyone with access to the laptop just makes a backup of that database and the damage is done.

It's hard for me to say whether you are correct or not; I was under the impression that the data was updated on the DB instance, and in that case I stand by what I said (the prod data would end up on the laptop, but then as soon as the command was run, it would get permanently obfuscated). If the data was just obfuscated on screen, then yes, perhaps you are correct. Something I have seen done before that I thought wa…

Let's go back to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35473227 and see what was said.

> ...I would copy their db onto my Mac, run the mongler on it, and then I would take the database home with me, without worrying whether the theft of my Mac could lead to lives being ruined.

From that, it was definitely run against a copy of the database.

The code that you showed looks like PHP display code. So it will change what is shown to the user, but unless showMixedFruit is horribly misnamed, will not change what is in the database. And therefore does not address the problem that the mongler was trying to solve.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by ALittleLight »

now__what wrote: post #391
ALittleLight wrote: post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're allowing your personal feelings for Musk to interfere with facts. Musk provided money, design, and leadership at critical early stages of the company. He's obviously a founder and you are simply wrong for disputing that.

It sounds like he was an influential early investor, but the situation you've described isn't what I would typically think of as "founding" a company. I'm surely not alone in this, thus the present debate. This isn't to diminish Musk's huge influence either; but folks tend not to love when the meanings of words are changed for PR.

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by JohnFen »

causi wrote: post #134
Algemarin wrote: post #102

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I feel conflicted whenever I see a comment like this. On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently. But on the other hand, what if it's not true? What if you happen to have a friend or family member who works for a Paytm competitor, or you have some grudge against Paytm for whatever reason, and are instead spreading low-key FUD about the company to make it seem like they have lax data c…

From personal experience, people will do anything they are physically capable of doing and think they can get away with. Almost nobody I know has the slightest amount of respect for any private data to which they have access. This extends from people in healthcare breaking HIPAA to tell me about how Jane Doe is an idiot who got a mayo jar stuck in her vagina to IT workers showing me John Doe's cringey nude selfies. T…

> Almost nobody I know has the slightest amount of respect for any private data to which they have access.

Really? You need to run with a better set of people. It's true that there are plenty of corrupt, terrible people out there -- but it's also true that there are plenty who aren't.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by [deleted] »

varun_chopra wrote: post #32

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by bogomipz »

The article states:

>"Tesla says there are "two types of camera recordings that are eligible to be transmitted from your vehicle to Tesla: Safety Event and Fleet Learning camera recordings." The Safety Event recordings last up to 30 seconds and are "captured only if a serious safety event occurs such as a vehicle collision or airbag deployment," Tesla says."

The article states that they could see people doing their laundry. Presumably because the washer/dryer was in the garage or else the car was parked in front of a laundromat. Neither of these sounds like a Safety Event or a Fleet Learning So why would allow a video from a parked car in a garage or in front of a laundromat ever be transmitted?

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