Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

Post by vlovich123 » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:41 AM UTC

pessimizer wrote: post #266

vlovich123 wrote: post #207

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Genuine question. Do you think the Democratic Party itself is conspiring with the DA to bring these charges? Is it at all possible that Bragg is bringing these charges because Trump broke the law and his former lawyer already went to jail for this exact same crime Given that what he did was at Trump’s direct behest? Ie how would this look different if this wasn’t something that the DNC was trying to orchestrate as a…

Why is speculating about this stuff helpful? This is just you assuming the best of everyone and asking why other people assume the worst. None of us (I'm lying, this is HN and there are billionaire insiders browsing it) have any idea of what's going on behind closed doors during this endless process of trying to disqualify Trump from standing in the next election.

Post by oh_sigh » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:44 AM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #183

djha-skin wrote: post #114

To play devil's advocate a little bit. From a structural perspective, it was pretty much impossible for the courts to recruit any jury that wouldn't be biased. Furthermore, the case was in New York, which is a very democratic city. I would be surprised if any jury picked from there wasn't biased and wouldn't have convicted him of any crime the judge put in front of them. To be perfectly clear, I am not a fan of Donal…

"Everyone in my home town knows and hates me" is one hell of an argument.

Post by Hilarity1 » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:45 AM UTC

BuyMyBitcoins wrote: post #125

ragnot wrote: post #22

As the saying goes: "A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich". Still big news...I'll just wait and see if the charges stick.

Indictment is an unfamiliar and intimidating word. In reality it begins a much more involved process and it doesn’t indicate guilt. It is most certainly not a verdict or a prelude to a sentence being handed down, as many people seem to believe judging by social media.

Post by dragonwriter » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:48 AM UTC

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Not to mention finally becoming a signatory to the International Criminal Court. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_Internat...

That cannot happen without a significant change to the constitution which will never happen.

Post by another_story » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:48 AM UTC

zarzavat wrote: post #346

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I understand your point and understanding both sides of the country is very important, but so also is justice. I mean, what if he is guilty? If 48% of the population is ticked off by a guilty conviction that theoretically could be correct, that shouldn't stop us from convicting a criminal. I'm not saying Trump is a criminal; I am not on the jury and do not have the facts. But I'm saying someone should be convicted if…

Let he who is without sin throw the first stone. Should Joe Biden be prosecuted for negligently storing classified documents in his home? Every person in the US is guilty of some baseline level of criminality, and the more “interesting” your life, the more crimes you are likely to have committed. If the US wants to have non-criminal presidents then it should reform its vast state and federal criminal codes so that su…