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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by rsynnott »

EarlKing wrote: post #280
numpad0 wrote: post #186

PSA: Mastodon, Misskey, Nostr, Bluesky exists now. Just top 3 Mastodon instances(mastodon.social, pawoo.net, mstdn.jp) collectively has > 2mil users, same level as Twitter in 2008. Misskey, an ActivityPub/Mastodon compatible server software, now has >10K users. Nostr isn't much, Bluesky is still invite only and had just went past 2k registered, but those are all available options for direct substitutes to Twitter in…

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For the former, the instance you're thinking of is on _all_ the blocklists; if you're seeing it, you're on an instance that basically doesn't do blocking at all.

For furry stuff... I mean, you realise Twitter is full of it too?

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by manquer »

sf_rob wrote: post #100
manquer wrote: post #39

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It not just the layoffs it is also the major changes Elon is forcing through at high speed . Hiring for twitter is going to be quite expensive, nobody is taking this up without huge payoff and probably upfront given Elon pre disposition not to honor severance etc

He seems to be of the belief that Twitter's issues are bottom line not top line. Hiring would require a major shift in belief.

There is so only firing you can do and attrition you can handle before you have to start replacing staff .

Either he shuts it down at the point or he has to spend a lot of money .

IMO More likely he shuts down and blame any range of external factors were conspiring to take him down rather than accept he decisions were wrong

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by nickstinemates »

echelon wrote: post #373
shadowgovt wrote: post #24

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> Sending best of luck to the engineers. ... mostly around the hope they can jump ship before the Titanic pulls them under.

Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. The only cases I can think of for staying: - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!) - A feeling one needs the job and can't easily get work elsewhere. Perhaps living paycheck…

Another reason: some people enjoy the work environment that is promised at the "New Twitter."

Clearly not for everyone given the amount of opting out and controversy.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by ISL »

CameronNemo wrote: post #307
Tostino wrote: post #247

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For someone who has tried to avoid hearing as much as possible about this drama (and didn't notice this was about Twitter until looking at the comments), what are the condensed "lesson learned" takeaways if you don't mind elaborating?

Don't fire or alienate hordes of engineers with firm-specific talent. Especially for a product/service as mature as Twitter.

Alternatively -- don't take on debt for an acquisition incommensurate with an acquisition-target's capacity to service that debt.

Musk's cost-cutting may yet pan out from a business perspective, but it seems to be a pretty risky move.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by favorited »

prenoob wrote: post #382
silentsanctuary wrote: post #367

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The frequency and types of outages and failures is significantly more frequent now than pre-Elon. This isn't a surprise to anyone, given Elon's strategy for maintaining Twitter (or not maintaining it, as the case may be). I don't interpret a lot of "drama" as you put it, but interest. Many observers here are in this field, and follow the "chaos engineering" discipline. Some of them use tools like "chaos monkey" that…

Well, the fail whale was a meme way before the musk era..

The Fail Whale hasn't been used since 2013.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by mjr00 »

jeromegv wrote: post #387
mjr00 wrote: post #354

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> There's definitely a correlation. Where is the evidence of this?

What evidence do you expect? It's not like Twitter is going to show us a post morterm from their outage. Anyone who knows and uses twitter quite a bit can see that things have been wonky on the sites. Big users have mentioned tons of issues (their mentions being empty, twitter threads going broken, some tweets never reaching their audience not even a bit), etc, etc. It's all anecdotal of course, we can't build a case…

Assuming that you are correct that things are breaking more at Twitter (which I'm not sure is accurate to begin with), how do you know that is due to "lack of engineering talent" and not due to higher pressure to deliver features?

As anyone who has operated a software system knows, the #1 reason things break in production is new code, and from a third-party observer with no inside knowledge it certainly seems like more changes are happening at Twitter than ever. This is orthogonal to layoffs, though.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by dang »

mikebonnell wrote: post #97

Twitter Support just posted: "Some parts of Twitter may not be working as expected right now. We made an internal change that had some unintended consequences. We’re working on this now and will share an update when it’s fixed." https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/163279294226274713...

Thanks - we changed the URL to that from the submitted URL https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/. (Submitted title was "Tweetdeck is now broken for normal users")

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by [deleted] »

tsimionescu wrote: post #171
secondcoming wrote: post #13

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Everything seems fine for me when I use the main website.

Same for me, but accessing Twitter links from Google breaks it. Seems to be related to a query param in my case (if I remove the ?lang=en, the page loads properly).

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