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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by electrondood »

neilv wrote: post #188

> Prohibited platforms: > Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Post and Nostr > 3rd-party social media link aggregators such as linktr.ee, lnk.bio Missing from this list are things that are not direct competitors, but where creators have monetized brands that they're motivated to promote on Twitter, including: YouTube, OnlyFans. I suspect that promoting blog articles on Medium and Substack is still OK…

> I suspect that promoting blog articles on Medium and Substack is still OK.

Putting aside the inconsistency/hypocrisy for a minute, I wonder how long that will last after they add long-form tweets.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by maxbond »

acdha wrote: post #286
tlogan wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

He’s thrown in as a movement conservative. You could tell because what he described as infringements on freedom of speech weren’t just wrong but consistently inaccurate matching the ways they were portrayed in the right-wing media. I’m not sure what galvanized him but have wondered whether it is as simple as the transgender rumors (Grimes, his daughter) being true. Given his wealth it’d be natural for him to be a low…

I'd point out his positions are reactionary, not conservative. He doesn't want to preserve an existing state of affairs, he wants to counter recent progressive movements. The old guard politician from Chesterton's fence [1], the prototypical conservative in my mind, would view someone who wanted to put the fence back up, after the matter has been exhaustively litigated and the fence taken down, as just as if not more foolish than the politician who had wanted to take it down without understanding.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fen...

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by fhd2 »

Deestan wrote: post #210
satysin wrote: post #96

Wow. How will the free speech absolutists twist this as being pro free speech? This policy makes Twitter the least free speech social media platform available. I wonder how this will work for official Twitter accounts for those other social media platforms? Will @facebook be banned/blocked? Also what about news services that link to a longer form story on alternative platforms?

> Wow. How will the free speech absolutists twist this as being pro free speech? Same as anything else. Any sequence of words that mimic a rational argument, with no concern for consistency with any previous stance or statement.

Sounds like it'd scale well with ChatGPT :P

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by yucky »

pjc50 wrote: post #283
photochemsyn wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the actual internal business model is motivated more by the desire to capture the Tik-Tok audience than the Parler audience - it's much larger. However, it is true that from a purely business viewpoint, you'd want a platform that was equally popular with left-Democrats, right-Republicans, and unaffiliated-independents.

It has been noted that Tiktok is not on the ban list, possibly because of Elon's personal decision to reinstate "libsoftiktok", a prominent harrasment account. > equally popular with left-Democrats, right-Republicans, and unaffiliated-independents A large number of forces are making this increasingly impossible.

   > "libsoftiktok", a prominent harrasment account
What?

They literally post exact quotes that have aged poorly and/or posts that are evidence of clear double standards and hypocrisy. That's a public service if anything.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by moab »

What a hypocrite. Elon is now living in an alternate reality where he is being constantly persecuted, defamed, and under attack. I wish him all the best, but based on our great works of literature (think Macbeth), it's usually all downhill from here. Was Grimes his Lady Macbeth? One can wonder.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by greenthrow »

CatWChainsaw wrote: post #364
greenthrow wrote: post #155

Ok Elon "free speech absolutist" excusers; if you defend this one you've lost all credibility.

Implying it wasn't already a dry well? Remember, he called one of the divers who rescued the Thai schoolboys "pedo guy" because the diver made a statement he didn't like. When the diver took him to court (I forget if it was libel or slander or defamation), Musk got away with it because "pedo guy" was clearly a nickname, not insinuating that this person commits atrocious crimes and we should all attack him.

I agree with you but they excused his banning of journalists the other day under the baloney "his kid was in danger" malarky. This doesn't have any fig leaf they can grab onto.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by krona »

lukevp wrote: post #190
bko wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Musk is being revealed as an emperor with no clothes. He was originally lauded because he had great ideas, put his money where his mouth was, and delivered some great products. And yeah, his companies needed to be a grind to succeed where so many have failed (Tesla being the only American car startup to succeed in something like 100 years). But going into a respected tech company like Twitter and gutting 80% of the w…

> Something like Twitter with hundreds of millions of users and most of them non-paying, with governments and big brands depending on it..

And yet its on the path to bankruptcy because of years of poor management and failure to capitalize on its value to those brands.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by ancapsfascists »

modeless wrote: post #356
pixelmonkey wrote: post #208

Worth mentioning that this policy might have suspended John Carmack for this tweet a couple days ago, announcing his resignation from Meta: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1603931899810004994... This is a very, very, very bad policy and shows with absolute clarity that Twitter is far from a free speech platform. Which deeply saddens me. Imagine how absurd it would be for Reddit or Hacker News to have a polic…

Carmack was clearly cross-posting, not promoting Facebook. Twitter doesn't generally allow long form posts like that, so it clearly falls under the cross-posting part of the policy. I don't like this policy either, but let's not make up reasons for it to be bad. There are plenty of real reasons.

The policy says comments like, "follow me @ on Instagram" are explicitly forbidden. One could very easily argue linking to ones own Facebook post could fall afoul.

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Post by colordrops »

satysin wrote: post #96

Wow. How will the free speech absolutists twist this as being pro free speech? This policy makes Twitter the least free speech social media platform available. I wonder how this will work for official Twitter accounts for those other social media platforms? Will @facebook be banned/blocked? Also what about news services that link to a longer form story on alternative platforms?

Should be "free speech absolutists" in quotes. True free speech absolutists wouldn't support any of these recent moves. Those of us that actually believe in free speech absolutism are very disappointed in the hypocrisy on display.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by jacquesm »

tedunangst wrote: post #352
kristianc wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s been some speculation he is trying to build an Everything app a-la WeChat in China. Aside from the fact that the everything app concept has never really worked outside China, and certainly won’t fly with the EU — he probably would have been better starting it from zero. I’m pretty sure if he could have got out of the Twitter acquisition he would have.

Yeah, watching twitter over the past two weeks has definitely made we wish it were my bank too.

You owe me a new, tea-free keyboard.
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