Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

Post by bobbylarrybobby » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:55 PM UTC

brundolf wrote: post #107

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Something I found interesting when discussing this with my wife.. All my friends are tech heads and champing at the bit to have usb-c in their iPhones. But when she asked me why people were mad about the switch to usb-c it took me by surprise. Then she showed me a lot of online responses from non technical people who see the change of port as annoying and wasteful because now all their stuff won’t work without adapte…

But even those non-tech people should have some USB-C cables lying around at this point Android phones have used USB-C cables for many years. The Nintendo switch and PS5 controllers use USB-C cables. Chromebooks use USB-C cables. The alarm clock I just bought uses a USB-C cable. My keyboard uses a USB-C cable. Every MacBook made in the last five years (and most iPads sold in the last couple years) uses a USB-C cable.…

Post by scarface74 » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:58 PM UTC

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It doesn’t prevent “ewaste” if phone makers (mostly low end Android phone makers) still bundle shoddy cables, stores are still allowed to sell shoddy cables, etc. And USB C is not free of licensing requirements https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/450494/are-u... A “good” USB C cable that supports all of the things I said - high speed data, video over USB, etc - costs around $15. The same price as an Anker…

It's not free, but it's cheap. A good USB-C cable costs less than $5, not $15. You hardly ever need a good one either, just one for charging. Re ewaste, that's a different topic. I'm just talking about licensing fees.

Post by scarface74 » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:59 PM UTC

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So how well are the USB C cables going to work that follow the minimum “mandate” that doesn’t require cables to support data at all? How well are they going to work when people pick up a “USB C” cable and wonder why they aren’t seeing video when they connect their phone to their TV?

> So how well are the USB C cables going to work that follow the minimum “mandate” that doesn’t require cables to support data at all? Citation needed? I think those are below the minimum. > How well are they going to work when people pick up a “USB C” cable and wonder why they aren’t seeing video when they connect their phone to their TV? They probably feel similar to people with lightning cables.

Post by Dylan16807 » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 10:02 PM UTC

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It's sad that it took legislation to make this happen, but I can see why. I worked in a pseudo-Apple-store during the height of the 30-pin dock connector and I sold so many cases, speaker docks, charging cables, and all sorts of weird accessories that were built for the 30-pin connector. Then Apple switched to Lightning. It was better in every. single. way. And yet people got burnt. There was so much hardware that wa…

> t's sad that it took legislation to make this happen Every time this topic comes up i still don’t understand what problem is this legislation supposed to solve. We’re not talking about infrastructure standarization like a gas pump, an electrical outlet or a lightbulb (which has hundreds of standards BTW) but a simple cable. Are we making laws just to accommodate consumer’s convenience now?

Post by Dylan16807 » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 10:05 PM UTC

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"A de facto standard is a custom or convention that has achieved a dominant position by public acceptance or market forces" I think we were using the word standard to mean something different here, I apologize. Going back to your argument, the reasons I typically see push for USB-C connectors are generally not technical and more about USB-C being _the_ standard connector and cutting down on e-waste.

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