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Post by roody15 »

spideymans wrote: post #290
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kids who don’t know better might become accustomed to it and, unless they are power users or interested to become that, they might prefer to scrape by with the iPad. There is pretty strong evidence that people aren’t great at using full fledged operating systems and feel much more comfortable on a slate with a dumbed down UI

iPads and Chromebooks are rapidly taking over education. Both K-12 and in college. I think the pandemic really accelerated things. A lot more students are using iPads, rather than paper notebooks.

Chromebooks won this battle.. handily.

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Post by FearlessNebula »

null_object wrote: post #62

Pretty much everyone here knocking the iPad Pros for being consumption-only passive entertainment devices. But I guess the artists, musicians, video-editors and photographers using them professionally would disagree, if they ever came here.

The thing is, is the iPad really the best device at the price point for these people? Artist seems like the only one.

- for a musician, surely the full featured desktop software is better? And for $800 you can get a pretty good laptop - video editors must also prefer a desktop OS. They can use keyboard hot keys, industry standard software, and get better GPU hardware - photographers might do pretty well with an iPad Pro but again I think they’d probably still be best with desktop class photoshop - a casual artist I will contend probably does best with an iPad Pro. But if they start doing really serious professional work, they will again probably want the full desktop software and an expensive Wacom hardware to go alongside

So at both casual and professional levels, the iPad Pro really only makes sense for a casual illustrator from what I can see.

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Post by mkaic »

kaycebasques wrote: post #45

One current day iPad killer app IMO is Procreate. It's basically a more intuitive version of Adobe Illustrator completely optimized for iPad + iPen. I bought my then girlfriend (now wife :D) an iPad for her bday in 2020 accepting the risk that we're spending a lot of money on an activity she might not stick with (digital illustration). Happy to report that I was totally wrong and we have def gotten our money's worth…

Agreed. Procreate is a masterclass in iPad app design. Everything runs so smoothly, the features are deep but the interface is still beginner-friendly, it's a joy to draw in with the Apple Pencil, and it has really good options available for exporting your work. Plus, it automatically records a timelapse of every project that you can render out at the end, which is a small feature that I absolutely adore. All that for a single-time purchase? Heck yeah.

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Post by adrusi »

With iPhone video hardware, ProRes support, and a thunderbolt interface that makes 4k ProRes actually practical to get off the device, the iPad Pro is now likely to be the best video recording device for certain creative niches. You can even edit the video on the same device that captured it in a pinch.

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Post by jerkstate »

candiddevmike wrote: post #12

Anyone use an iPad as their daily driver?

I did for ~5 years but switched to the m2 air, complex tasks and multi tasking are much much easier, as well as dev work which is possible in a very limited way on iPad. I always used it with the keyboard attached and the laptop has a better hinge for screen angle too

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Post by smoldesu »

musictubes wrote: post #370
smoldesu wrote: post #207

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> but those affordances are still a subset of what you can do with a touch screen. I disagree. A gesture-based workflow won't replace Pro Tools' keyboard shortcuts, unfortunately.

Touch is far better for performance though. Watching Suzanne Ciani seamlessly integrate her Buchla modular rig with the ipad makes me appreciate just how good the ipad is. A regular computer would be far more cumbersome to use with hardware synths in the moment.

Not really? The iPad isn't velocity-sensitive, and it doesn't have aftertouch or any tactile feedback. A "regular computer" at least has straightforward MIDI routing that you can perform with - the iPad gets outclassed by decade-old Octatracks in terms of performance flexibility.

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Post by adastra22 »

Terretta wrote: post #257
roody15 wrote: post #239

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" I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me." Interesting, how long have you been iPad Pro only? At the price point of the iPad pro with a keyboard and touch-pad.. why not just buy a laptop like the MacBook Air? Hauling around an iPad pro with a touchpad.. and an external keyboard seems less convenient than just using something like the MacBook Air. Unless I am…

> At the price point of the iPad pro with a keyboard and touch-pad.. why not just buy a laptop like the MacBook Air? 1. cellular + eSIM, missing from Air (WHY, Apple, why?) 2. detaches into perfect touchscreen tablet, Air doesn't 3. Apple Pencil (requires "Paperlike" for texture): https://paperlike.com 4. it's a great second screen in either extend desktop or keyboard/mouse mode > Hauling around an iPad pro with a to…

Interesting, I hadn’t heard of Paperlike. I’ll have to give it a try.

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Post by Siira »

musictubes wrote: post #323
galoisscobi wrote: post #27

I wonder why developer tools are not a priority for Apple for “pro” iPads. At this point, it uses the M2 chip so the limitations on running IDEs, compilers and other tools just seem arbitrarily imposed.

I keep hearing about the desire for developer tools on an ipad and I just don’t get it. The entirety of iPadOS would need to be overhauled in order for it to be conducive for developer work. What is the appeal of doing dev work on a touch based UI with limited access to the file system on a cramped screen? The Mac is perfectly set up for that work.

An iPad is more portable than a Mac.

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Post by cube2222 »

thefz wrote: post #389
Terretta wrote: post #223

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On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

Maybe it's just me, but I can't think doing any meaningful work without access to the filesystem.

What do you mean with "filesystem" specifically, that isn't available on iPads?

There's the Files app.

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Post by washadjeffmad »

roody15 wrote: post #210

I Work IT in a institution with 290 employees and have had 5 switch to iPad Pro's to "replace" their laptop. I am now 5 for 5 with all asking for their laptop back. iPadOS is nothing more than iPhoneOS renamed and the device is still too heavily crippled for desktop/laptop replacement. In my mini test case scenario I never said a word..simply the employee asked for iPad Pro.. I just handed it to them... waited... the…

We have over 3000 employees with Apple equipment as their primary device, and probably 200 of them are iPad Pro only.

They do serve different niches than laptops, but with a keyboard case in an Office 365 environment, they can be full office/productivity replacements for anyone who prioritizes light travel over running local software.

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