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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by starfallg »

b112 wrote: post #309
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

The issues is that until the delivery business model runs into a brick wall (which IMO is inevitable), we'll see this continue. It's hard to blame them because being slow to disruption can be fatal to a business. It's just hard to tell at the beginning which disruptive ideas will end up taking over, and which ones end up as duds.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by permo-w »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #146
ZephyrBlu wrote: post #81

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Attention is zero-sum. If TikTok is winning, someone else is losing. TikTok now is what Facebook was 10 years ago.

Facebook is where my older relatives social network. As soon as it became a place where people over 40 went, it lost its appeal to the young people that Facebook is really after.

this is why they bought instagram

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by WesternWind »

I don't miss it being run by google or forced into every product, but google+ circles were so much better then facebook friend lists.

But I refuse to be nostalgic for FB, it's always been meh to me.

And the sad thing with all these changes is it's going to frustrate all the old retirees who just want their computer to do the same thing that it used to do.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by mst »

donatj wrote: post #358
b112 wrote: post #309

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Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

With how much McDonalds has raised their prices in the last 2 years, I don’t understand how they can even be competitive on DoorDash. When I can get actual food for less money and the same exact effort, why eat McDonalds? Until very recently I used to be able to get a full meal for ~$4, but now it’s hard to get out for under $12. The only reason to ever eat McDonalds at this point is the “it’s there” factor when I ha…

Huh, they're still ridiculously cheap here in .uk still ... though perhaps only if you pick the least profitable things off their menu.

Triple cheeseburgers reheated in the microwave with a brick of extra mature cheddar added between two of the patties first remain one of the most cost effective "my depression is trying to eat me but I really should still actually have food" meals I've figured out though. (the trick is to microwave it just enough to soften the cheddar then cut it in half, stupidbrain finds a whole burger upsetting but half a burger twice acceptable, yes I know how little sense that makes logically but the entire point here is "working around my brain being irrational.")

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by permo-w »

xwdv wrote: post #74

It’s crazy to think the social media era may finally be ending. There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Everything is about feeding you content you didn’t ask for but may be targeted enough to catch your attention. And for what? To show you some ads here and there? To collect data that can be used to… sell more ads and products?…

this golden age you refer to, if it even existed in the first place, was around well, well before stories came along

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by Joeri »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Counterpoint: facebook are going to add the classic chronological friends and family experience as a second tab “feeds”. In your analogy it would be like mcdonalds splitting down the middle, with the main entrance leading you to tacodonalds and a side door from that hallway leading you to the classic mcdonalds. Parents could send their kids to tacodonalds for a burger taco because that’s what the kids love, while nearby they could enjoy a classic big mac. Most people would probably prefer it that way.

This is just diversification to reach more market segments, and as long as that feeds tab exists they aren’t doing anything different from e.g. youtube, where the home tab is not what I want at all, but the subscriptions tab does exactly what I want.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by toastal »

guilamu wrote: post #357
jackdh wrote: post #353

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Until they start to require Facebook to log into WhatsApp..

Then just leave for Telegram which is infinetly better (their native windows client is just incredible compared to the other atrocious electron based chat apps) or even better for Signal which is not as feature rich yet but open source.

While missing the Matrix, Wire, and IRC options?

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by mst »

DominikPeters wrote: post #368
b112 wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

A more important reason that McDonald's has become slow is that they've switched to just-in-time assembly of burgers. They used to have an inventory of burgers, and for most orders, you ordered and the person taking your payments immediately assembled your order. Now there is no buffer, and everything is made fresh.

So far as I've seen here in .uk they still have an inventory and most orders happen that way. (given them being a franchise this may not generalise beyond the locations I visit, of course)

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by zelphirkalt »

edmundsauto wrote: post #149
robswc wrote: post #127

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Haha, true! Tbh tho I usually only click on a few of the posts on here, the one's that interest me. The signal to noise ratio just seems awful on tiktok, marginally better on reddit and HN. There you can scan the page and see what interests you. On these new "endless scroll" types you have to at least invest a few seconds time into each video. Say you skip ~10 videos, that's ~10 seconds to just find a 10 second video…

Other humans often perceive updates on their friends, family, and connected entities as much more valuable than the discussion we are having. The most important rule for HN is that this forum and the people on it are not representative of the general population.

That picture gets distorted quickly, as people have 200 "friends" on social media, most of whom share a rather filtered and polished image of themselves online. People in many cases don't really get an accurat idea.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by birksherty »

caseyross wrote: post #145
xwdv wrote: post #74

It’s crazy to think the social media era may finally be ending. There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Everything is about feeding you content you didn’t ask for but may be targeted enough to catch your attention. And for what? To show you some ads here and there? To collect data that can be used to… sell more ads and products?…

It really is weird, isn't it? To have what was essentially a solved problem 10 years ago become... what you described. On Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/LinkedIn, I still have tons of people I'd be interesting in passively keeping up with. Maybe even actively, sometimes. But all that latent sociality is increasingly just dead out of the gate, seeing as I no longer use any of those platforms regularly. My closest friends,…

> A closed, private space that admits no outsiders, marketers, or clout chasers, but strongly discourages developing relationships with new people or expanding one's horizons.

I find it much better. If I want to, there are hobby groups like discord, anonymously, not show off to all for likes and follows kind of social media.

There should be no need to passively know what people are doing all the time. If anyone do that, it becomes addiction.

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