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Advocating for removing a contributor for a statement on a different site, unrelated to the project, for example? https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941
And this is supposed to be a good thing?
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I remember reading Vapor’s first code of conduct and feeling it’d been copied from an SDS rulebook. But that was New Left cultural stuff about marginalized people, not Marxist left. For instance there were at least two rules about “tone policing”, which doesn’t even make sense (what is there to tone police?) and also seems to defeat the purpose of a CoC since moderation is a kind of “tone policing”.
I guess you mean this document? https://github.com/vapor/vapor/blob/a7f340f64b7182e9e4202a9b... The only bit I see about tone is “Communicating in a ‘tone’ you don’t find congenial” on a list of things they said they would NOT act on complaints about. I see nothing in there that isn’t obvious getting-along-with-others stuff. It still seems to me that it’s helpful to write those things out rather than have them unspok…
Yes, that’s the problem. This is essentially the only thing that actually does come up on project forums that you need moderation for.
As good as the intentions behind them are, they work much better by leaving negations out. Do not murder -> Leave other people alive Do not commit adultery -> Be truthful to your partner Do not steal, Do not covet -> Be content with what you have Do not bear false witness -> Speak the truth Do not do to another what you would not have done to yourself -> Treat others like you want to be treated Do not become attached…
i'm getting Terry Davis vibes
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There are a dozen open source kernels yet only one succeeded. It was absolutely Linus's no bullshit policy that made it a success and a target.
Plenty of projects are run by assholes. Finding one that is successful and attributing that success to abrasive communication style is confirmation bias. Even Linus has said his past behavior has been a problem.
You, and everyone who thinks code of conducts are good, can't because you're too incompetent to.
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I mean, the economics of National Socialism aren't what people usually hate about it, they hate the authoritarianism where you were either their kind of socialist or they would beat you up and cast you out of society, even if you were some other stripe of socialist. So they became nearly universally hated by fighting anyone who wasn't one of them.
> ... the authoritarianism [of the Nazis] where you were either their kind of socialist ... They were no kind of socialist.
It really was a left-wing economic model with extreme right-wing social policy, plus lots of genocide.
No less ridiculous than other similar documents out there
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Well, it would lose the value of being nominally attributable to a 1500yo monastic document. This might not make a difference to you if you don't acknowledge the the provenance (nor, heck, if you think the provenance is shot in translation), but on net it probably matters a lot more that the small number of people agreeing to the document, presumably none of whom are you, do.
I have absolutely no reason to disbelieve the provenance, I just don't ascribe any value to a thing being old.
I see some value in it: Being that old and still in widespread use proves its viability.
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The point is that the other codes of conduct often embed other particular cultural suggestions and assumptions, but since they are those of your own you don't notice them as jarringly as those of medieval Christendom.
> but since they are those of your own you don't notice them as jarringly Why would you assume this about me and not take at face value that I really believe you don't find these often in the wild. It's just my personal experience that I haven't seen these out in the wild all that much (I can't think of an example), and it was surprising to me.
What, OSS project codes of conduct?!? Weird; how the heck does one miss that whole phenomenon? There has been lots of controversy around (some of) them in much of online media about computing over the last few years, including huge threads of heated discussion here on HN.
So... what is SQLite's stance on abortion? [Edit] Found it: it's supported: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3912417/is-there-a-way-t...
His stance is his own and frankly private. If he chooses to open up about it publicly fine, but sitting on a soap box online demanding political and private questions wreaks of moral and intellectual false superiority.
Reeks.
But yeah, that's what a lot of other Codes of Conduct feel like. (And the discussions about them.)