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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by theklr »

karmasimida wrote: post #319
justinmchase wrote: post #254

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Its not a great movie, you don't need to see the whole movie in order to see enough to realize its fucking sick.

I saw the whole movie and it is a regular coming of age movie as I remembered Don't understand what is the fuss about it from the conservatives

They don’t want the truth? Like teens get horny and start questioning about sex, but instead of treating it with the proper bodily function it is let’s ignore it and promote scare tactics that still to this day are effective. God forbid you don’t want to have a unplanned pregnancy or worse.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by manicdee »

wly_cdgr wrote: post #22

Fair enough. Seems pretty reasonable to expect your employees to be willing to work on what you ask them to work on, given that you're paying them and they voluntarily signed up to work for you. And as people who were able to get a job at Netflix, they surely had other options.

I don’t think it’s fair or reasonable to hire someone to help produce documentaries and then expect them to produce “ow my balls”.

I don’t think it’s fair or reasonable to hire someone to produce web sites in Flask/Vuex and then expect them to dedicate themselves to maintaining your PHP legacy systems.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by antifa »

flavius29663 wrote: post #380
virgildotcodes wrote: post #367

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I agree. I just thought I’d sidestep any potential debate and reiterate the heart of the matter which should be impossible for anyone to deny.

being trans or gay is such a big thing, I don't really think you can hide from being trans... It seems to me like it's being trivialized today, and some kids are pushed to say they are one just to be in trend with others. Body dysmorphia is no joke, it's like saying: there were always these many anorexic girls, they were just too shy to show it.

> and some kids are pushed to say they are one just to be in trend with others

I don't believe this is generally true, and if it was true, I don't believe any doctors prescribing HRT are falling for it, and even if you proved a statistically improbable thing happened once or twice, the ratio of "trans kids hiding in the closet under coercion" to "cis kids pretending to be trans under coercion" would still be something like 999999:1.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by georgia_peach »

dang wrote: post #381
georgia_peach wrote: post #349

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Could you please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments to HN? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly, and we ban that sort of account. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

That all seems very vague and arbitrary. Could you break down an example for me?

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by kX4A8o4mVmX8aW »

lukifer wrote: post #201
krona wrote: post #52

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> hypersexualisation of young girls Which is what the producers did to create it in the first place. Hence why it was unethical. I'm sure there are some snuff films with interesting character development too.

I've heard it quipped that there's no such thing as anti-war movie. No matter how searing the criticism, no matter how horrifying the violence: war simply looks good on the screen, and the spikes of adrenaline we get during a war film excite us. The same could be said of films with any form of taboo sexuality, even when done in the spirit of satire or social criticism. > I'm sure there are some snuff films with inter…

Some backstory: Luc Besson directed "The Professional" (1994). His second wife was Maïwenn Le Besco, who was the model, but not the voice, for the Diva in "The Fifth Element" (1997), also directed by Besson. Maïwenn and Besson started dating when she was 15 and he was 31, they were married in 1992 when she was 16, and she had his child in January 1993. She later claimed that their relationship inspired "The Professional." They divorced in 1997 after Besson, 38, became involved with and then married "The Fifth Element" star Milla Jovovich, 21. Later in 2018 Besson was accused of rape by several women, though he denied the accusations and they were never proven in court.

I'm not sure whether the fact that the director of a movie with a pedophilic subtext was himself involved in an only-slightly-less pedophilic relationship in real life makes the movie itself less ethical to make or to watch, though it certainly doesn't make it any better. Maybe I'm saying that I'm skeptical that a creator who does some immoral thing can make a creation about that same thing with the context and discretion necessary not to glorify it.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by spenkishne »

nautilius wrote: post #386
h3cate wrote: post #345

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Your comment, like speech in general I admit, doesn't tell the whole truth. "Again, the only 'accommodation' that is asked is to just let them live." This isn't true as they are asking that comedians to not make jokes about them. Dave Chapelle nor any comedian that I know of go around saying trans people should not be allowed to live. Or have I missed something?

Shifting goalposts, are we, after your 'clearly' comment did not even contain a grain of truth about what OP posted? And yes, you are missing something. Go ahead and watch Chapelle. The issue isn't that he makes a joke about trans people. Sure, I'd assume people in general may not like having jokes made at their expense, but that's not the issue. The issue is that Chapelle dedicates a whole special to argue that thei…

> The issue is that Chapelle dedicates a whole special to argue that their cause isn't worthy to be supported.

Why is that an issue?

Their cause is to enact a redefinition of "woman" and "man" (and in some contexts, "female" and "male") in terms of so-called gender identity, rather than sex.

This is a sweeping, fundamental change to how most people understand those terms, and there is growing evidence of some very negative outcomes of doing so.

Of course there will be pushback on this. And it's not a bad thing to do so.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by tored »

joemazerino wrote: post #4

I cancelled my Netflix account after the whole Cuties debacle. While visiting my friends I have noticed that Netflix content quality has been dropping sharply the last few years. Let's hope this exodus of customers and content creators will create a new, more interesting industry for the future.

I noticed a sharp decline in quality when Netflix started with their own original content, some of it was good but most of it was mass produced low quality trash.

But it also an inherit problem with any movie streaming service that wants to have fresh content, you have to fill the content bucket with something and mass produced low quality stuff is both cheaper and faster to produce.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by dang »

georgia_peach wrote: post #394
dang wrote: post #381

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Could you please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments to HN? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly, and we ban that sort of account. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

That all seems very vague and arbitrary. Could you break down an example for me?

Your GP comment is written in the flamewar style: escalating, sensational, and indignant. That's the opposite of what we want on HN, particularly on divisive topics, as you'll see if you read the site guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Note these:

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

"Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity."

I'm seeing lots of comments like that in your feed. Examples:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31384784

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31381302

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31334684

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31286305

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31243595

This is not cool.

In addition, you're using HN primarily for ideological battle, which is a line at which we ban accounts, regardless of what they're battling for. If you don't want to be banned on HN, we need you to stop that as well. Note that this is a different line than the one I'm describing above. For more explanation about it, see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... HN is definitely not a place for political or culture warriors, regardless of which side they're on or have a problem with. It's a place for intellectual curiosity, and those things are profoundly incompatible.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by dang »

zionic wrote: post #390
dang wrote: post #384

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If you keep using HN for hellish flamewar, we will ban you. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. More at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31389366 .

Does this apply equally to those promoting trans agendas in the comments? I ask because here we are, in a thread specifically about these kinds of issues, and you are threatening my account with termination for disagreeing. I don’t see any threats made to the people on the other side, despite posting incredibly divisive/controversial views. When you selectively moderate along ideological lines you harm the community.…

We don't ban accounts for disagreeing, but for breaking the site guidelines. Your account was the most flamewarrish one in the thread by a large margin. If you think I missed a worse offender, I'd be happy to take a look, but from what I saw your comments were the most aggressive (in both quality and quantity). If that's right, then you're in no position to point fingers at others.

If you read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, it isn't hard to see what would be ban-worthy about that. Not banning such accounts would be like not having a fire department.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by dragonwriter »

rendall wrote: post #377
skelpie_6000 wrote: post #372

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> > Race and orientation is an immutable characteristic of the person. > That is no more true that it is of gender identity. Some people detransition, i.e. their gender identity changes back to match their sex. This demonstrates that gender identity is not immutable. For example, here's a fascinating piece by a recent detransitioner, about how, and why, her gender identity was male for several years: https://lacroics…

I think GP believes that race and orientation is mutable, and so agrees that gender identity is, as well. At least, it's how I read that.

> I think GP believes that race and orientation is mutable

Not particularly.

Race and gender are social constructs, and ones identity (and orientation, in the latter case) with regard to either is formed early – and, once formed, immutable or nearly so – as a product of innate traits interacting with socialization around the construct.

(The fact that gender identity can diverge from socially ascribed gender, resulting in demands to alter the latter to conform with the former, does not make gender identity mutable, in much the same way that the fact that people might mistake your race for a different one than your indentity doesn’t make racial identity mutable.)

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