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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by xtian »

BuckRogers wrote: post #201
mistrial9 wrote: post #34

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The ideas have to be out there or they'll never get traction. We have major influence recently. The path of the world was changed dramatically with the election of Biden over Trump. I can't imagine how emboldened Putin would be had Trump won. I realize others say everyone was scared of the rich man's son, but I don't see it. He withheld 400 million in military aid from Ukraine, says it all as far as the path we'd be…

I’m sure Putin is really afraid of the guy who can barely get a coherent sentence out. Trump reportedly wanted to exit NATO, which would have avoided this conflict altogether.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by doomleika »

mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

Because they are the one wielding the social justice bat to other corps.

When you are the one to do the inquisition, you are expected to be held to the higher if not the same standard.

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Post by _-david-_ »

BuckRogers wrote: post #201
mistrial9 wrote: post #34

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The ideas have to be out there or they'll never get traction. We have major influence recently. The path of the world was changed dramatically with the election of Biden over Trump. I can't imagine how emboldened Putin would be had Trump won. I realize others say everyone was scared of the rich man's son, but I don't see it. He withheld 400 million in military aid from Ukraine, says it all as far as the path we'd be…

>I can't imagine how emboldened Putin would be had Trump won

I am a bit confused. It seems like Putin was not emboldened when Trump was president. Why do you think his second term would have been different?

Putin attacked Georgia when Bush was president. Putin attacked Ukraine when Obama was president. Putin attack Ukraine when Biden was president.

The only US president in the last 20 years that was in power when Putin didn't attack a neighboring country was Trump.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by _-david-_ »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #385
_-david-_ wrote: post #305

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The problem with a website is your cookies get deleted every once in a while. This is is inconvenient since you have to re login. Also, push notifications for a regular website isn't great (pwas might be better?)

Cookies get deleted when you explicitly delete them (most users don't know how to do that), or when you've set them to expire (which can decades into the future), or when you break your own code (which should be never).

Cookies should be set to session not a date. Many sites like HN don't do that presumably for convenience. I assume most social media sites set a date though.

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Post by parineum »

dotcoma wrote: post #368
parineum wrote: post #362

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It literally isn't a browser monopoly. Whether they fund them or not, Firefox and Safari are equally useable browsers. I use Firefox as a daily driver in both desktop and mobile and have zero issues. Hell, chromium can do everything chrome can. Maybe they're a monopoly in the online advertising space but I'd argue that's simply because they're better.

Firefox is Mozilla‘a browser, and it would be gone tomorrow without the money they get from Google. Safari is a contender on phones, not so much on desktop.

You're considering "contender" when the word you should be using is "competitor".

It's not Google's fault people prefer chrome over safari. The fact that people _can_ choose Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Chromium, Brave, etc. is what matters. As long as Google isn't doing anything anti-competitive, it's absolutely okay to dominate the market with a superior product.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by paulnpace »

More of the same problem of too many developers feeling they control my computer.

Removing something from new installs is rather different than removing something from existing installs.

The future of browsers and search engines sure has been a disappointment.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by yoasif_ »

perihelions wrote: post #247
yoasif_ wrote: post #227

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The Omnibar is Chromium/Chrome specific. The Firefox address bar is also known as the awesomebar, but has never been known as the omnibar. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/a-little-something-aweso...

TIL, thanks! I've added that word. (In my defense, even the support.mozilla.org docs themselves seem to avoid it; the one I linked only refers to it as "address bar").

Avoid awesomebar? That is a nickname - the correct term is the address bar. It has never been an "omnibar", however.

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Post by asveikau »

polski-g wrote: post #388
mmastrac wrote: post #281

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Putting pressure on Russian citizens motivates them to protest and take action inside of their country. The Ukrainians didn't have a choice either. I'd much rather have the US heavily-handededly knock down the Russian economy than the alternative of involving itself militarily.

> Putting pressure on Russian citizens motivates them to protest and take action inside of their country Is there any evidence this has occurred in the past? Didn't work in Iran, Iraq, North Korea...

Not sanctions, but ironically Ukraine is a place where popular uprisings worked. In 2005 and 2014. (Though if you buy the Russian line, it was all Nazis or something.)

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Post by OrvalWintermute »

staticassertion wrote: post #375
OrvalWintermute wrote: post #315

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> ...Russian government propaganda. It's a news aggregator, so it might look like propaganda because all popular news outlets are propaganda. Not sure if they filter anything themselves. But I think it still makes sense to put a pressure on the company anyway. As opposed to what Western News Media coverage on the war has turned into, aka, more Propaganda? The middle ground is not promoting our own Propaganda instead,…

What propaganda? I'm sure there's bias in reporting, no question. But bias, say in support of Ukraine, is very different from saying that there's no conflict at all.

The narrative of the war in the West is "Putin just invaded the innocent Ukrainians, killed lots of people, rah rah rah". Here are the pics of Zelensky in fatigues ready to confront the invader.

The other side narrative is, "There has been an active war going on for 5+ years now following a US coup in Ukraine, and many innocent Eastern Ukrainians and ethnic Russians have been killed already. Now, Putin is invading to protect Russia's borders from broken promises over NATO spreading, and the threat of a hostile NATO near Moscow"

Both sides are biased, and both sides are producing agitprop, but we're only limiting one side's access to distribute their worldview.

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