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Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by kortex »

tyingq wrote: post #243
obmelvin wrote: post #215

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Does it just prevent you from sharing the files or does it prevent you from accessing the file as well?

Just tried that, and I get a "request a review" link. Interesting. "Unable to share This item may violate our Terms of Service - Request a review" Clicking on it, though, gives no joy: "451. Sorry, Google is unable to process your request. This item was taken down for legal reasons and cannot be appealed. Please visit the Legal Removals Requests page for more information." https://imgur.com/a/5YHQtLi

Someone just needs to copyright the number 451 and then they won't be able to return that HTTP response!

Checkmate, google!

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #233
reincarnate0x14 wrote: post #229

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AFAIK the copyright scan only happens on files shared from certain types of Drive accounts, the assumption presumably being that while Google doesn't know or care if you have rights to possess data, they can be reasonably sure you wouldn't be using Drive links as the means of distributing many well-known files (video, music, software, mostly) if you had rights to do so. How far Artificial Stupidity runs into the weed…

What is the best in class cloud drive software which doesn't do this? I feel like Dropbox is a bit more selective, but without going into the Megas of the world, there doesn't seem to be a good file share with solid end-user desktop sync.

Honestly, when I read a few months ago that Google was scanning Drive for illegal files (probably only when shared but unconfirmed) I decided to back out of Drive, and I figured that all the other big/reputable players are doing it too so I've gone back to a portable hard drive.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by aasasd »

narrator wrote: post #78
jrockway wrote: post #7

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How long until cloud providers are forced to scan block devices, so you can't even self-host a file erroneously flagged by the ML? (Actually, how long until this is integrated with the "security engine" in CPUs, so you can't even hide with encryption? Everyone is talking about on-device voice-recognition and CSAM recognition, but no doubt the copyright lobby is going to push hard for this as well.)

Gab.com is how to run a service that gets kicked off all cloud providers. They had to build their own bare metal infrastructure. That's right! They use zero cloud infrastructure. No AWS, etc. They even have release announcements about how they've upgraded or bought more servers so things should go faster and they can enable more features and so forth.

Wow, who would've thought that you can run stuff on servers.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by dhosek »

Barrin92 wrote: post #274
OneLeggedCat wrote: post #205

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Just tested this myself. Got the same results as you while using different file names. Difficult to believe that Google has become so internally dysfunctional that it hasn't fixed this technical embarrassment twenty hours after first being being seen, and then five hours after being reported on front page of Hacker News.

At the scale at which Google operates, even if they fixed it within a minute it probably takes some time to test and roll these things out. Sometimes I wonder if people think that infrastructure for billions of people is some sort of magic where you push the fix button and magically everything's solved across the globe.

I remember interviewing at Amazon (this was 2009) and being told that any engineer could deploy to the main site at any time. The thought terrified me.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by Snuupy »

marivilla wrote: post #170

Google Drive also offers client side encryption, which would make this scanning ineffectual: https://flowcrypt.com/blog/article/2021-06-14-google-workspa... So as long as you have a ton of money and are a corporation your privacy should be just fine

You can do the same with rclone crypt or cryptomator.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by [deleted] »

Barrin92 wrote: post #274
OneLeggedCat wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just tested this myself. Got the same results as you while using different file names. Difficult to believe that Google has become so internally dysfunctional that it hasn't fixed this technical embarrassment twenty hours after first being being seen, and then five hours after being reported on front page of Hacker News.

At the scale at which Google operates, even if they fixed it within a minute it probably takes some time to test and roll these things out. Sometimes I wonder if people think that infrastructure for billions of people is some sort of magic where you push the fix button and magically everything's solved across the globe.

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Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by bonzini »

C19is20 wrote: post #227
bonzini wrote: post #162

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Which is a problem of its own, since they're effectively usernames. Secure usernames that have no corresponding password is already an oxymoron; that's what credit card numbers used to be, hence the introduction of the CVV, 3DSecure and so on; but at least a credit card can be blocked with relative ease. But SSNs are secure unchangeable usernames, which makes even less sense. Do any countries other than the US have s…

Italy: https://ilmiocf.it lets you generate your equivalent of an ssn (fiscal code). And, yes...if you know someone's very basic details you have the number. For US viewers, enter 'stati uniti' as 'comune di nascita'. Use deepl.com for the bit at the bottom.

Why is it always Italians shitting on the country without knowing what they're talking about? This is absolutely not comparable. You can't ruin someone's life if you have their codice fiscale (source: am Italian).

Most countries do have some kind of id number like that, but they always have a "password" too. In Italy authentication is done by the SPID providers[1] or with an electronic id card (or physically with an id card, driving license or passport).

You can't get a credit card and spend as much as you want in their name. You need at least a stolen or counterfeit physical document to open a bank account, or a stolen password and a SPID second factor to file a fraudulent tax return. In the US the SSN is often enough unless you opt into freezing credit.

[1] for non Italians, that's the acronym for public digital identity system; it's a SAML-based authentication mechanism used by most public websites including tax returns, pension/welfare, and healthcare

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by bonzini »

azernik wrote: post #305
C19is20 wrote: post #227

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Italy: https://ilmiocf.it lets you generate your equivalent of an ssn (fiscal code). And, yes...if you know someone's very basic details you have the number. For US viewers, enter 'stati uniti' as 'comune di nascita'. Use deepl.com for the bit at the bottom.

Whereas in Israel, a national ID number is treated as just that - an ID number. You put it on every single contract you sign, on most bureaucratic forms, &c, and it's used to match up individual identity rather than names. On many online services, your ID number is your username, and your password is chosen per-service.

It's the same in Italy, actually. The poster above is incorrect.
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