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As parent indicated, they are machines that make chips.
How were the chip-making machines made before there were chip-making machines? Can't chip-making machines be made without chips? Yes. The very first one, at least, was made like that.
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> Advocates will defend this by saying most energy usage is renewable. Even if true (iirc there is a lot of doubt whether it is, see Iran), it's still moronic, because consuming renewable energy for shits and giggles obviously means that other energy demands are being met with your usual energy mix instead of that renewable energy that went into shits and giggles as assumed. In terms of net emissions it simply doesn'…
I'm curious why we don't find a similar backlash to people who put their energy into a hot tub or to cool a 5x sized home.. as these cases don't even purportedly support a valuable economic mechanism. For instance. I don't cool my home with AC. does it bother you that I mine bitcoin overnight when the grid has surplus energy?
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> Advocates will defend this by saying most energy usage is renewable. Even if true (iirc there is a lot of doubt whether it is, see Iran), it's still moronic, because consuming renewable energy for shits and giggles obviously means that other energy demands are being met with your usual energy mix instead of that renewable energy that went into shits and giggles as assumed. In terms of net emissions it simply doesn'…
I'm curious why we don't find a similar backlash to people who put their energy into a hot tub or to cool a 5x sized home.. as these cases don't even purportedly support a valuable economic mechanism. For instance. I don't cool my home with AC. does it bother you that I mine bitcoin overnight when the grid has surplus energy?
"Penny wise and pound foolsh."
Another example of this is plastic bottles. See it's your responsibility to recycle, not the company's responsibility to not use plastic. People nanny each other's recycling habits but don't say shit about Coca-Cola bottlers. Bottler's are too busy laughing their ass off on the way to the bank. Recycle, reduce, reuse.
Supply shortage is another way of saying demand excess. I don’t see much evidence that TSMC ever really slowed production, at least for their most advanced processes that are in high demand. This is yet another way we’re all forced to pay the price for cryptocurrency. As long as GPUs are profitable for mining, they will be purchased and put to work. The saddest part is that each additional GPU added to the mining net…
Honestly folks should pull their money out and invest in something tangible like starting a business that ACTUALLY CREATES VALUE.
Supply shortage is another way of saying demand excess. I don’t see much evidence that TSMC ever really slowed production, at least for their most advanced processes that are in high demand. This is yet another way we’re all forced to pay the price for cryptocurrency. As long as GPUs are profitable for mining, they will be purchased and put to work. The saddest part is that each additional GPU added to the mining net…
Supply shortage is another way of saying demand excess. I don’t see much evidence that TSMC ever really slowed production, at least for their most advanced processes that are in high demand. This is yet another way we’re all forced to pay the price for cryptocurrency. As long as GPUs are profitable for mining, they will be purchased and put to work. The saddest part is that each additional GPU added to the mining net…
I agree with this but it's even worse than that. Estimates on Bitcoin energy usage put it at over 1TW now. I believe it was comparable to the energy consumption of Argentina. Advocates will defend this by saying most energy usage is renewable. This conjures the image of someone with a bunch of solar panels but the reality is that it's primarily hydro power because that's the cheapest. Thing is, in regions with cheap…
Supply shortage is another way of saying demand excess. I don’t see much evidence that TSMC ever really slowed production, at least for their most advanced processes that are in high demand. This is yet another way we’re all forced to pay the price for cryptocurrency. As long as GPUs are profitable for mining, they will be purchased and put to work. The saddest part is that each additional GPU added to the mining net…
There is a demand for semiconductors that exceeds supply. You have made a leap that the current demand driver is bitcoin and its consumption of GPUS. As much as I appreciate the sentiment that Bitcoin is a waste, that leap doesn't hold up when you look at the actual numbers for semiconductor demand.
The number one demand item for 7nm semiconductors is cell phones.
If you read the various analysts reports you will find this sums it up well: It(demand) is mainly driven by the increasing demand for consumer electronics and the integration of semiconductor into several devices across sectors like automotive, industrial, communications, military, and others. (that is from this report[1] that for $2500 you too could read it (https://www.marketreportsworld.com/global-semiconductor-mark...))
During the pandemic it appears that everyone upgraded their TV (at least in the US) which, not surprisingly, consumes a lot of semi-conductors. The pandemic has also botched a lot of logistics which will sort itself out but these small bumps can cause unusually large ripples in the supply chain because so many industries are built around "just in time" delivery of raw materials. Semiconductor manufacturing is a process that is intolerant of frequent line starts/stops.
So TSMC, knowing that new fabs cannot come online instantly, has chosen to risk alienating their customers a bit by raising prices to capture the value associated with their assets (productive plants) during this period.
[1] To be clear, I didn't pony up the $2500, I looked at a number of sites that reported on the contents of the reports and pulled quotes from them. Market information is itself a market.
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A good example of non deflationary cryptocurrency is ethereum
That's certainly not a good example. The price has grown much faster than inflation in the western world, while the issuance of new currency has trended down, not only as a percentage of total money supply, but in nominal terms: https://www.wisdomtree.com/-/media/us-media-files/blog/blog-... While in theory the community can elect to inflate the money supply, in practice the people who get to vote on the issue are ho…
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Madoff's scam lasted for 17 years and only collapsed because of sharp economic downturn. It could have lasted for much longer if people suddenly didn't need the cash. Bitcoin is often described as distributed Ponzi. There is little value (skipping over regulations is about the only thing it's useful for) and a lot artificial pumping. It will collapse when people need money for something else so either economic downtu…
The reality is everything is a Ponzi. Equities. Real Estate. Economies. The thing that Bitcoiners have realized, that I think you may not have quite understood yet, is that there is no 'cash run out'. Brrrrr... Cash is infinite. Bitcoin is not. That is part of its fundamental value proposition.
The argument that scarcity is a fundamental value proposition for an asset is just nonsense. I can make my own crypto even more limited than BTC overnight and it will worth about 0. It's not scarcity that makes stuff valuable. In case of BTC 3 things make it valuable: adoption, ability to make transaction while skipping over regulations (which requires adoption) and artificial propping by scams like Tether.
Thank you cryptominers for everything you did for the mankind, especially huge GPU prices and insane air pollution caused by your mining farms.
Also, thank you for providing fast and cheap remittance payments to poorer countries.