Three bucks a month?
They just committed suicide.
1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#392Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I was 18, I wrote some shareware and asked for $10 from those who used and liked the program. Lots of nice people from all over the planet sent in some money, and sometimes with letters. Most often it was a thank you note. Sometimes people requested more features in return for paying the requested amount. And occasionally they'd tack on whatever extra they thought those features were worth to them. (That amount…
I don't know how subscription fixes your problem. Now people will still yell at you, even once you've moved on to other projects, and even more people will do so since they actually pay and assume that it is your obligation. You haven't fixed the "people are assholes" problem. A better solution honestly is just to accept some percentage of people will be little assholes but hopefully, as you remembered before your fr…
I think it's pretty obvious. If you don't provide support when receiving subscriptions people will stop paying.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#393Scott Forstall, who led iOS until 2012 and oversaw the creation of the App Store, once said that he installed a new app every day to see what new ideas developers were coming up with. The mass migration of apps to the subscription model has killed this sort of exploration and discovery of new apps. As one example, I recently looked for a flight tracker and many wanted more than $30/yr for a tool that is (to me) an oc…
Developers used to be motivated to release the next versoin and make you buy their app all over again. The upside is now you dont have to buy a bunch of applications for $120 (a year if you always want the latest version) and you can just pay as you go. But like you I have had a few subs that ran over and now I avoid where ever possible. Adobe were the last to annoy me, previously I am sure I had paid up for a few mo…
Or better: support adsbexchange.com instead. They don't introduce the delay that flighttracker24 do and they don't hide military and business jets. They're really non profit.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#3941Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!
Hi. I'm a feature developer for 1Password, and I want to clarify a few things. I've already posted this elsewhere, but I've seen multiple threads spreading misinformation that our technical decisions are being driven by VC funding. This could not be farther from the truth. We have been working on these changes long before we received any form of outside investments. Over the past few years, we've been working on cons…
Hi, long-time user, customer, and word-of-mouth recommender of 1Password for the nine years my Hacker News account has been active (give or take a few months). This is a big announcement that I'll have to chew on to understand what this means.
Can you quantify the "needless development churn and hassle for both customers and our support team" in some way? Presumably, 1Password 7 and its ancestors used native macOS APIs, which meant some degree of that given you had to do something different on Windows and/or Linux. I don't know what your support team has had to endure, but as a long-time sample size of 1, I've been incredibly satisfied with the way you've designed and engineered the macOS application (and the iOS app too!) to date; I'd be hopeful that whatever tradeoffs y'all will be making moving to Electron, the "native" feel of the macOS client wouldn't be sacrificed. Is there anything you can speak to there that I should prepare for with 1Password 8?
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#395I am a 1PW subscription user and am happy with the product (however, seeing they are moving to Electron means that is very subject to change...) but Saying that "customers voted with their wallet" and chose subscriptions is disingenous Ever since they've had subscriptions they've made the standalone license page extremely difficult to find on their site. They really didn't give regular users a "choice"- they dark-pat…
I fully agree. Been a standalone user for years and a coworker asked me recently how I got the standalone license because he didn’t think it existed anymore.
Even with me knowing it exists, I wasn’t able to find it on their site to send him. (Hint: you have to upgrade within the app, but only if you downloaded from their website, and only if no 1p account or trial is present)
Add other dark patterns like the extension being 1PX only by default and doesn't work with standalone. You have to cram through their website to find the legacy extension and even that isn’t straight forward. They tried very hard to hide all info of a standalone existing.
(Personal annoyance: locking new features like the redesigned autofill overlay to the subscription-only version even though the Safari extension fully supports it for standalone, but not the others.)
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
This reads like that notorious HN comment about it being trivially easy to roll your own Dropbox. Our time has value. Good UI has value. How much time is saved by just using a service like 1Password versus the design, setup, maintenance, and ongoing use of a system like you suggest with all those individual pieces?
so getting to know how to do things by yourself is a waste of time?
it's not a waste of time only if you are interested to know how to do these things.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#397Well darn, I guess I have to find a new password manager. 1Pass + Dropbox sync was so good.
Unless they remove support for local vaults from their mobile apps, you can continue using the classic self-synced method. I sync my 1Password vault across Android and Windows using SyncThing, using 1Password 7 and the legacy browser extension in Firefox. I don't get the inline 1Password prompt in password inputs, but that's the only disadvantage (Ctrl+Alt+\ brings up the password selector anywhere in the OS, not jus…
They have, as far as I can tell. Last month I tried to set up a new 1PW installation and exhaustively searched through the app menus - no sign of standalone vault support anywhere.
It's possible that it was hidden because I had previously signed in to my work's 1PW account, maybe, or that it's hidden too well for me to find. I don't know, and would be happy to learn either way.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#398Earlier quoted context omitted.
I moved to Bitwarden from Lastpass also, and I'm definitely happy for the most part. The chrome extension leaves a tiny bit to be desired, but definitely still usable: * Not as good about determining correct sign-in URL and lots of times will send me through the auth redirect from registration * Launching sites without mouse isn't possible (shortcut exists to open extension but can't select site to launch it using ar…
One other thing I do not like about BW (but not enough to switch) is that when you click out of the bitwarden window, it disappears and loses your place so you have to navigate to the secret again. Kind of annoying if you are on a website that resists autofill or want to copy something from custom fields.
Tip: Pop-out the extension as a window. Even if you close it, your browser’s Ctrl+Shift+N is going to restore that window with the same secret/state, even if the vault locks.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#399Also a stand-alone user since 1pw4. This news finally got me to try pass, the command-line utility. https://www.passwordstore.org/ The format is plain text. You can git control your password repo. You can organize into directories, etc. It has an extension architecture; you can have it generate otps, for example. You can have specific passwords unlock with more than 1 key, if you want to do eg. family or business sha…
Another happy user of “pass” here. The program integrates with Emacs, Firefox, Unix, and Git like butter. No need for any clouds or services. ;^)
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#400I am a 1PW subscription user and am happy with the product (however, seeing they are moving to Electron means that is very subject to change...) but Saying that "customers voted with their wallet" and chose subscriptions is disingenous Ever since they've had subscriptions they've made the standalone license page extremely difficult to find on their site. They really didn't give regular users a "choice"- they dark-pat…
I fully agree. Been a standalone user for years and a coworker asked me recently how I got the standalone license because he didn’t think it existed anymore. Even with me knowing it exists, I wasn’t able to find it on their site to send him. (Hint: you have to upgrade within the app, but only if you downloaded from their website, and only if no 1p account or trial is present) Add other dark patterns like the extensio…
Agreed! Also a standalone user for years. (have about 400 passwords and security Qs in 5 vaults). Can even live with subscription (its just forking out a few bucks more), can even live with electron - at least a Linux client will be avaialable rightaway, but why no local store, Dropbox sync was working perfectly !