Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah as I mentioned down the thread, once you act against the users, you're dead. I'm done. They are going from my life. Good job it's ebay 80% off fees this weekend here in the UK.
Pretty sure I read this would only apply to US based users
An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
391–400 of 713 posts
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#392Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fixed further: Chinese Government: Here is the NeuralHash for some child abuse imagery, please scan this user's phone and tell us if it's found. Apple: Sure we found it. Chinese Government to some western company/instititution: We have detected unacceptable behavior from your employee/student/client/vendor. Please cancel them, or we will stop funding you.
Replace Chinese with absolutely any government and that's what'll happen. We're pretty much at a point where any hacker/leaker anywhere on earth is "found" to have committed sex crimes or have 300 gigabytes of child abuse on their computers. Eventually Disney will be getting their hands in it to detect copyrighted content and then it's all over.
Although with this, I think it's more likely that Disney's executives and/or employees will be charged and arrested before that happens. I mean, with this track record...
1. (Aug 2021) https://djhjmedia.com/kari/disney-workers-caught-in-child-se...
2. (Dec 2017) https://variety.com/2017/biz/news/jon-heely-disney-music-gro...
3. (June 2019) https://insidethemagic.net/2019/06/former-walt-disney-vice-s...
4. (July 2014 / Dec 2017) https://www.huffpost.com/entry/disney-employees-child-sex-ch...
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#393Please talk to non-tech people around you about this. This overreach simply cannot stand, and from a company that sees success from touting itself as a privacy-centric alternative? These really are some dark times. I imagine that if the world had Stasi fresher in its mind, this would never have happened.
The privacy implications are fucking horrible. As an Android user I'd love to gloat, after all Apple have really had the upper edge on privacy so far, and their users have not been shy about telling us. Again and again. However any pleasure would be as short lived as peeing your pants to keep warm in winter, because if Apple proceeds, Google is bound to follow. A user monitoring system like this is just ripe for abus…
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#394I know the privacy approach Apple has been pushing was just marketing, but I didn't care too much because I enjoyed my iPhone and M1 macbook. Because of this decision (and the fact that my iPhone more-or-less facilitates poor habits throughout my life), I'm considering moving completely out of the Apple ecosystem. Does anyone have any recommendations for replacements? * On laptops: I have an X1 carbon extreme running…
Laptop | Desktop: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/overview/cp/linuxsystem... Router: https://www.turris.com/en/omnia/overview/ Media Center: https://osmc.tv/vero/ Cloud (Use TrueNAS Scale): https://www.truenas.com/systems-overview/ Phone: https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ Watch: https://pine64.com/product/pinetime-smartwatch-sealed/ Smart Thermostat: https://hestiapi.com/product/hestiapi-touch-one-free-shippin..…
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#395Where is Richard Stallman when you need him? This is the War on General Computation you have been warned about, and its good to reiterate: "You ( and I mean you as an Individual and you as a Company ) you are either with us, or against us"
He was canceled, but he still regularly updates his personal website: https://stallman.org/
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#396US Government: We suspect the person in this photo of committing a crime. Here is your subpoena, Apple. You are directed to scan all iPhone and iCloud storage for any pictures matching this NeuralHash and report to us where you find them. Chinese Government: Here is the NeuralHash for Tienanmen square. Delete all photos you find matching this or we will bar you from China. Apple has at this point already admitted thi…
I’m not trying to minimize the danger of that slope. But as someone who is interested in the particulars of what Apple announced specifically, it is getting tiresome to wade through all the comments from people just discovering that PhotoDNA exists in general.
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
Selfies are suddenly going to be used as surveillance tools by the govt, or maybe a bad actor at Apple wants to find/track down their ex. This system has so much potential for abuse with very little upside.
Suddenly?
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#398Earlier quoted context omitted.
I gave up on Macs almost 20 years ago, but I have an iPhone 7 that I need to upgrade. This whole shitshow has put that purchase on hold indefinitely.
I just got an iPhone 12 a couple months ago because “Hey it’s definitely more private than google”, better control of app permissions, and nice hardware. Seems unclear what the alternative is now. The Linux phones I’ve looked at have a lot of catching up to do.
Personally, Linux desktop has been good enough for decades, for my work as a software engineer. I gave up many conveniences when I switched fully from Macs (e.g. BBEdit, Finale for music, etc.).
I think phones are reaching the same point, where I am ready to sacrifice a decade or more of software “progress” to regain control of my hardware.
In the very long term, I will always bet on open source when it comes to commodity devices. I believe phone development will progress much like the Linux desktop experience, which is now relatively rock solid. It may take a decade, but each of us that joins their movement will speed these alternatives on to their inevitable market domination.
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s not a slippery slope; that’s a fully built system just waiting for external pressure to make the slightest change. Apple’s changes would enable such screening, takedown, and reporting in its end-to-end messaging. The abuse cases are easy to imagine: governments that outlaw homosexuality might require the classifier to be trained to restrict apparent LGBTQ+ content, or an authoritarian regime might demand the c…
We can carry every single element back to its inception and make identical arguments. That's the problem with slippery slopes. Apple - creates messaging platform. Slippery slope - governments can force Apple to send them all messages. Apple - creates encrypted messaging platform. Slippery slope - governments can force Apple to send them the keys and all messages Apple - Adds camera to device (GPS, microphone, acceler…
Also the difference here compared to the scenarios you've mentioned above is that Apple has walked pretty far. All it would take is to make the verification happen on all local files irrespective of its being uploaded to iCloud or not. Then any government can provide their own hashes to apple to keep track of. Apple won't have any idea what those hashes actually mean
Re: An Open Letter Against Apple's Privacy-Invasive Content Scanning Technology
#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
The privacy implications are fucking horrible. As an Android user I'd love to gloat, after all Apple have really had the upper edge on privacy so far, and their users have not been shy about telling us. Again and again. However any pleasure would be as short lived as peeing your pants to keep warm in winter, because if Apple proceeds, Google is bound to follow. A user monitoring system like this is just ripe for abus…
What if you choose not to upload photos to iCloud?