Each to their own. I'm a happy Firefox user and will continue to be on all my devices (including my phone which I'm writing this now with)
Firefox lost 50M users since 2019
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Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019
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>only Safari is able to stop this madness now Safari is usable on less than 20% of machines, it absolutely will not be stopping anything. It's also the bane of my existence as a web developer.
Once Safari is gone you're not a web developer you're a ChromeOS developer
Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019
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true. their api is now a dumbed down version of chrome. I still remember the days of vimperator and treetabs in xul. firefox did this to themselves. they dont deserve support.
Tree Style Tabs exists: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... Vimperator replacements exist: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl Additionally, XUL was a steaming pile of shit, and there was no saving it. Multithreading was only possible by ripping out XUL.
Being hostile to people who ask nicely about getting some necessary features into the new API however, that is optional.
Same goes for extracting all the money from Firefox and sacking important dev teams while continuing less important charity work.
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My child's school uses Google Classroom. The Google experience is unusable in Firefox. Meet doesn't work (e.g. he sees nothing when the teacher screenshares). This seems really quite anti-competitive. My child cares about privacy and switches browsers. Chrome for Meet, Firefox for most non-Google things.
Meet absolutely works in Firefox, there's nothing anti-competitive going on. As do Google products generally (though there are occasionally performance issues where Firefox simply doesn't provide an API that Chrome does and the polyfill is slower, but then Firefox catches up). But try disabling browser extensions and see if that fixes it -- a majority of the time that's the culprit. With videoconferencing specificall…
Isn’t this the problem? Why do I have to disable something in Firefox to make it work for a google product.
Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019
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You should be testing in the top 3 browsers.
So Chrome, Safari and Baidu?
The third most popular browser globally is Edge: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share
Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019
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> It's also the bane of my existence as a web developer. I would say as a Chrome developer then.
Thanks for making this personal. I wouldn't have any issue with Safari at all if I was just a chrome developer would I?
Being IE only made life a lot easier.
Same today. Some people think it is OK to test only in Chrome. That lets one get away with a lot of bad habits.
Dealing with different browsers is part of what makes one a competent web developer.
Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019
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I am too, but I have telemetry disabled since their stunt with the Mr Robot extension they installed remotely for everyone [1]. I also run uBlock on both desktop and mobile. I am one of the 50M users counted as lost? [1]: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/mozilla-back...
>Mr Robot extension they installed remotely for everyone Absolute bullshit. The Looking Glass extensions was installed through their SHIELD experiments program, only for people who had enabled it, and to a very small proportion of those, too. Additionally, it did not capture any data, as creepy as it was. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/retrospective-l...
Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019
#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meet absolutely works in Firefox, there's nothing anti-competitive going on. As do Google products generally (though there are occasionally performance issues where Firefox simply doesn't provide an API that Chrome does and the polyfill is slower, but then Firefox catches up). But try disabling browser extensions and see if that fixes it -- a majority of the time that's the culprit. With videoconferencing specificall…
> But try disabling browser extensions and see if that fixes it Isn’t this the problem? Why do I have to disable something in Firefox to make it work for a google product.
It's not a Firefox problem, it's extensions you chose to install that neither Firefox nor Google have anything to do with.
Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019
#400The problem is with modern web, sites excepting JavaScript and things like canvas fingerprinting etc. for working.
I have JavaScript disabled, for regular browsing I'm stuck with Firefox version<57 - so, for me, there is no future.