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iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

nicolas_t wrote: post #112

The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice. Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want. I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and th…

>I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives

It's highly likely that even if there's an commercial alternative which gains significant market share to compete with duopoly in the future, they will have to do so by either compromising privacy or ownership of the device.

Solution right now is to make difficult lifestyle choice by using passion or idealistic projects. LineageOS + Fdroid can get things done for those who use their smartphone as an tool and ready to sacrifice a bit of social conformity(which can be a privilege at current times).

There are more extreme alternatives like Linux phones which I hope becomes less extreme in years to come.

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Post by eesmith »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #282
eesmith wrote: post #215

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It's hard to even find a good feature phone these days. At least I'm looking for one now because my Nokia E5-03 died yesterday so now I have to figure out what to get. I want something small, that I can stick in my pocket and not worry about the screen, with days of standby battery life, and where I don't have to read and "agree" to pages of legalese. In the heyday of feature phones, I could pick one up for $20. Nowa…

I heard KaiOS phones are good, including the "Bananaphone" (aka Nokia 8110 4G) that can be had for very reasonable amounts.

I just ordered a Cat B40 - https://www.catphones.com/en-gb/cat-b40/ . It uses KaiOS. :)

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Post by foxpurple »

jamespo wrote: post #121
foxpurple wrote: post #59

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This is outdated info. The latest iPad Pro has the M1 chip, exactly the same as the MacBook. And it comes in 8/16gb ram. The magic keyboard accessory apple sells for the iPad also turns it in to the same form factor as a laptop. You very realistically could replace a MacBook with an iPad Pro and magic keyboard if apple let people run macOS on it.

Wouldn't be much of a laptop, good luck using it on your lap

It works about the same as my actual laptop. That is, uncomfortable but technically possible.

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Post by the_dune_13 »

gurleen_s wrote: post #217
the_dune_13 wrote: post #198

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Or states demanding yearly inspections if your car is up to safety standard and your modification didn't make it more dangerous / unlhealthy for the public. Absolutely ridiculous.

I don’t see how these two things are in any way related. If your car is unsafe, you could kill someone. If you sideload an app on your phone, that only affects you. There’s a line we must all draw between personal freedom and the right of others to also be free when you decide to live in a society with other people.

> If your car is unsafe, you could kill someone. If you sideload an app on your phone, that only affects you.

If there is no authority / safety-check over the apps, potentially thousands could lost millions from new wave of scams. Some sort of oversight has to be in place for devices with that much personal data. In the worst case scenario, Apple could get sued for that.

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Post by flohofwoe »

judge2020 wrote: post #383
orangecat wrote: post #293

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Exactly. Apple executives threw macOS under the bus in the Epic trial, saying that its capability to run arbitrary software makes it unacceptably insecure (e.g. https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/19/22444353/mac-malware-not-... ). It shouldn't surprise anyone if a future macOS version requires a paid developer certificate to run unapproved apps or access the Unix layer.

MacOS is indeed unacceptably insecure. Imagine someone downloads FortniteForMac.app (as in, a fake Fortnite for MacOS download since it's not available except on Windows right now) - that can lead to a keylogger and clipboard watcher beaming your data to some foreign data lake, where it'll soon be used to sign into your Bank (proxying requests to your computer to appear less suspicious, of course).

This is exactly how it works since forever on Windows, yet the sky hasn't fallen yet.

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Post by sudosysgen »

judge2020 wrote: post #378
sudosysgen wrote: post #355

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The problem with the iPhone is a problem of coercion. Apple is exerting legal power and the threat of force to prevent you from doing what you want with your phone pursuant to the DMCA. If there were no legal restrictions with what you're doing with you're phone, Apple would have a very hard time preventing you from doing what you want. Anyone could buy an exploit for iOS for a million and sell unlocks for 50$. There…

> Apple is exerting legal power and the threat of force to prevent you from doing what you want with your phone pursuant to the DMCA. No. https://www.wired.com/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/ They simply make it technically infeasible to jailbreak since jailbreaks run untrusted code that bypasses security restrictions (eg. adware that survives resets).

Just like for ripping DVDs, yes it is legal to do it personally. That's not what I was talking about, I'm talking about commercial jailbreak operations which are still illegal.

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Post by LocalH »

makecheck wrote: post #279

If they put half as much effort into eliminating real scams as they do in eliminating proven useful software , what a different platform it would be.

They could start by banning the scammy apps that claim in ads that you can win “real money”, and in the fine print “no rewards are provided for ad play or game completion”

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Post by LocalH »

TchoBeer wrote: post #365
roody15 wrote: post #255

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I own Kings Quest VI

Owning a game doesn't make it legal to pirate it

Assuming a copy of a game is pirated because they had to copy it to the device is disingenuous. How do you know they didn’t rip their own copy?

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Post by toxik »

e40 wrote: post #320
toxik wrote: post #163

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It’s funny that we software developers have been so coddled into thinking that we don’t need unions because we get paid enough for our work. Yet we all know and see these oversteps by companies, taking away our very ability to work our trade as we see fit, piece by piece, inch by inch. I support the EFF, but that’s basically all I know how to do. Imagine if Google’s software developers went on strike every time they…

and see these oversteps by companies, taking away our very ability to work our trade as we see fit I don't see how that works. As you see fit? Sounds like you need to start your own company, if that's what you want.

Then Apple decides that my app isn’t acceptable, Google decides I have to implement their special code to show up in search results, and this gave me power how exactly?

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Post by judge2020 »

sudosysgen wrote: post #396
judge2020 wrote: post #378

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> Apple is exerting legal power and the threat of force to prevent you from doing what you want with your phone pursuant to the DMCA. No. https://www.wired.com/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/ They simply make it technically infeasible to jailbreak since jailbreaks run untrusted code that bypasses security restrictions (eg. adware that survives resets).

Just like for ripping DVDs, yes it is legal to do it personally. That's not what I was talking about, I'm talking about commercial jailbreak operations which are still illegal.

What makes them illegal? I imagine the only reason nobody does it is because there’s no market - anyone that wants their phone jailbroken probably doesn’t want to pay, or just doesn’t want to be without their phone for a week+. Plus, it’s not like a commercial operation like this is going to start making their own jailbreaks and then hoarding the exploits so that you can’t use your own PC to perform them - the jailbreak community would immediately hate such a company.
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