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Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads

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Post by quickthrower2 »

ahofmann wrote: post #296
quickthrower2 wrote: post #259

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If you are on Google do a regular takeout [α] in preparation for a future ban. It exports everything. Easiest way to back it all up and gives you time to wean off Google. α: https://takeout.google.com/

The problem is that Google behaves like an asshole. It doesn't help that you have the option to make a backup beforehand.

Yes, I agree. But this does help people both mitigate AND move away from Google services. The main sticking point for me with Google is having all your history searchable and now it’s possible to set that up over your takeout data as you move to someone else for email, calendar etc.

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Post by blibble »

alexchamberlain wrote: post #279
lbriner wrote: post #273

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For small company accounts in the UK, you can file them yourself. It is not completely easy depending on what you are doing but well within the ability of an engineer, as long as you are keeping the relevant receipts etc. For me, running a company was never expensive, just hassle like sending your annual update to Companies House and understanding the various overlapping communications from HMRC for tax.

Interesting - I thought all companies had to file electronically with tagged accounts - ie you need some level of an accountant.

if you're a "micro" enterprise (turnover it can be done entirely for free on the Government's Companies House site, which generates your accounts, the regulatory statements and also does your tax return

takes me about 10 minutes a year, sending the figures to an accountant rather than punching them into the government's website would take longer

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Post by snotrockets »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #79
snotrockets wrote: post #17

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Epik is excited to provide services for white supremacists. I'd think thrice if this is a vendor I'd like to have my name associated with.

Okay, but we're in a discussion about avoiding services that randomly ban people, so that sounds like a positive: If they won't even ban white supremacists, they probably won't ban me.

The rest of the world might ban you though, as you get to share the same reputation of the assholes your vendor become famous for hosting.

Here's a fun things about AUP: they're viral. Once your upstream provider enacts one, you have to follow, or risk being cut off.

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Post by skinkestek »

BMorearty wrote: post #371
skinkestek wrote: post #297

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You defend Google better than any of their official spokespersons IMO :-) I still dislike Google intensely for a number of things but not for this anymore. (In case you are interested: - serving me insulting ads and not giving me good ones whenever I didn't have adblock activated for over a decade. (edit: I've lost count of how many times I've clicked "not interested" on semi nude pictures advertising for scammy dati…

What did they do with double quotes? (I googled it but couldn’t find it, haha)

Try to search for "goolge" on Google.

See if any of the top three or ten results contains the word "goolge" or if they have silently rewritten it in the background.

Adding doublequotes used to mean it should search for that exact phrase. Super simple example of one place were it was useful: when you were troubleshooting a weird crash and you saw a mis-spelling in an error message: you copy or type in that exact message in quotes, bam, if there was a match you got it.

Google is always doing lots of experiments on all of us, vut for the last decade this has been broken for me. It just ignores the doublequotes. Same with the verbatim setting, it has been just placebo.

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Post by busymom0 »

snotrockets wrote: post #389
busymom0 wrote: post #248

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When one doesn't defend free speech for those they don't like, then they don't care about free speech. Would you rather have them run their site in open so people can simply not visit their site and others can watch for vile stuff they might be talking about? Or put them under the rug so they go even more underground with even less opposing view points and thus falling in their echo chambers? Also now a days any oppo…

This isn't about free speech. It's about not being labeled a sympathizer.

Was ACLU a neo nazi sympathizer in 1970s?

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Post by 5560675260 »

Larrikin wrote: post #58
themolecularman wrote: post #57

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> If there's a good alternative never use Google anything. Brave instead of Chrome. Duck Duck Go instead of Google. Proton Mail instead of Gmail. The only thing I haven't been able to replace is YouTube. That's a tricky one because it's the content creators that keep me locked into it.

Why a chromium browser instead of Firefox?

Mozilla is funded by Google - it's a questionable alternative at best.

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Post by IshKebab »

londons_explore wrote: post #247
IshKebab wrote: post #142

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I don't understand why they don't at least allow Google Takeout for banned accounts. They've already done all the hard work of implementing it!

Two reasons: * Some account bans are for illegal content - Child porn, bans so an account state can be investigated, copyright claims etc. In that case, letting a user download their data could violate the law/ethics. * Technically implementing this in Googles infrastructure is hard. The login session used by takeout has to have access to all data (so that takeout itself can get your data from each service and build…

Neither of those sound like remotely difficult problems. And honestly the first point sounds like an imaginary problem.

1. When banning people, include a field saying whether or not they should be allowed to access Takeout.

2. Include a one-time authentication token for Takeout in the ban email.

I'm sure it would require some work to implement but so what?

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Post by snotrockets »

busymom0 wrote: post #395
snotrockets wrote: post #389

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This isn't about free speech. It's about not being labeled a sympathizer.

Was ACLU a neo nazi sympathizer in 1970s?

I think ACLU are severely misguided, if not acting dangerously in their active support of a CLIENT rather than a CAUSE, and thus actively supporting and encouraging proprietors of hate speech.

Those who are already clicking on "reply" ready quote Niemöller's poem back to me should expect to be quoted Popper back, and be reminded that those that came for Niemöller are the same ones they wish to protect, and that those assholes wouldn't lift a finger to help you back: they'd rather punch you. It's not a bad idea to punch them back and remind them that they have no place in society, and should crawl back to whatever beerhall they crawled out from.

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Post by donatj »

ape4 wrote: post #310
donatj wrote: post #298

What’s a good Adsense alternative? They’ve temporarily disabled my Adsense a couple times in the previous year for “invalid traffic” and this is making it sound like a huge liability.

Each month I get paid a bit for my Adsense ads minus a small amount for "invalid traffic". I don't click on my own ads and its only a few dollars.

I've had my ads completely shut down twice for months at a time "for investigation" due to invalid traffic. I don't click on my own ads. I don't know, it's a little worrying.

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Post by cookiengineer »

squiggleblaz wrote: post #257
andi999 wrote: post #242

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Don't you have to name the account after a real or legal person?

Depends on the country. A well regulated bank has to know who the real or legal person behind the account is, but that doesn't necessarily mean the name of the bank account has to correspond to the name on a birth certificate. It's the business of the state to make sure they can tax you, but it isn't the business of the state to make sure Google can ban you.

It also depends on whether your company legally resides in the US or not. And also where the HQ is located (as that's the legal baseline for taxes in Ireland).

Most of those mega companies probably are not even paying taxes in the US, due to them having their legal residence in a postbox office in Dublin.

In addition to my initial comment: Most banks that offer enterprise/business bank accounts have a feature to split up accounting so that you can manage the financials of teams and suborganizations in a separate manner which eases up filing tax reports, too. I know that this is the case in Europe, but dunno anything about the banking system in the US.

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