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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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post #326

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This ship is delaying $400 million dollars per hour in global trades. It better not fucking take weeks.

Or what?

Well, there's always the option of just demolishing the ship and its cargo, getting everything out of the canal without worrying about whether any of it survives the process.

That would still be expensive, but is it more expensive than blocking the canal?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#392
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Kind of amazing that in 48 hours, an event happens that threatens one of Egypts major income streams and political power sources, and the maximum they can spare is 2 bulldozers... Like why not call in the army, rent every bulldozer in the district, and within 12 hours you'll have 30 on site and be able to move a lot of sand quickly to free it?

In fairness, the US couldn't ramp up mask or ventilator production very fast when the coronavirus was going to tank the entire economy.

Well I'm sure we could have, it's just that ex-Presidenté chose not to take that action.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Oh what about magnetism? Could we wrap the ship in wire and send so much current through that it repels against the Earth's magnetic field and shoots itself right into the atmosphere? Basically building a giant rail gun. Might need a small nuclear power plant or two to make it feasible.

> Might need a small nuclear power plant or two to make it feasible. Amazingly, that's a severe underestimation. The force on a wire carrying current in a magnetic field is given by F = B*I*l, and to move it upwards that force needs to be at least equal to gravity, so equate to F = m*g. - Let's be generous and assume B = 100 uT = 100 * 10^-6 T. - Likewise, assume the ship is a rectangular box with sides of 400 m x 10…

Discussions like these are why I love HN. Sorry for non-constructive response, but this time I just had to say it. Great laugh.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Could you build a temporary barrier around the ship and the section of the canal, bring in some massive pumps, and temporarily raise the water level around the ship? Edit: Something like this https://www.hydrologicalsolutions.com/aqua-barrier-cofferdam...

Imagine the pressures on the temporary barrier too, and what a failure would mean. Even bigger disaster.

The pressure on the hypothetical levee wouldn't be much since we're only talking about a couple dozen feet of water depth. (Yes, some jerk is going to come along and calculate out that that's an impressive amount of total force and act like that's a big deal but it's not really that impressive when you've got a huge amount of material to spread it out over).

Digging out around the ship is going to be much less work because of the amount of material you'll need to move and how far you'll need to move it.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#397
Can someone here run the numbers on coating the whole thing in a half inch of peanut butter and unleashing an army of hungry squirrels to eat their way through? I’m not saying it’s the perfect solution, but it’s the best shot we’ve got.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#398
I guess it's pretty complicated, but if it were less stuck, I wonder if they could use the anchors to winch it out of the tricky spot it's in. Use a tug to drop one on the other side of the canal, then pull it in to move the boat sideways.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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post #174

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It's a way of thinking out loud and providing an opening for someone more knowledgeable to explain what is being overlooked. It makes for interesting threads.

In that case... why don’t we get Elon Musk’s Submarine to get it out?

Any volunteer pedo guys about to help?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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And how much salt would you need? At least 100kg per m3. Assuming the canal is 250m wide you need a 400m section dammed and average depth is 15m then you need 150 thousand tonnes of salt. Thankfully Egypt produces more than 3 million tonnes of salt per year so just a few weeks worth of production and enough to fill a large bulk carrier ship.

I was thinking a few lorry loads on the edge they are trying to pull, just to give it a kick briefly so the tugs can get that initial momentum going. More of a brief sudden kick/change to give it that edge. With that I don't think with the whole damming of aspect would be any better than damming of and pumping water in. Also with that scale you run the risk when you breach the dam of causing what I'd call a saline ts…

> a few lorry loads on the edge they are trying to pull

My intuition is that at the scale of ship, and the canal, “a few lorry loads” is not going to have any noticeable effect.

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