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YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by concordDance »

Judgmentality wrote: post #322
foepys wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everytime this is coming up, I wonder why people were always okay with banning nudity but now that hate speech (that undeniably agitates people and leads to hate crime) gets banned, they oppose content blocking.

Who was okay with banning nudity? I think the only thing I've seen universally agreed upon to be bad is child pornography.

And even that isn't universal, depending on what type (e.g. many will be fine with self made 17 year old nudes, far less with forcible rape of a six year old).

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by michaelt »

psyc wrote: post #354
LordDragonfang wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nudity is banned on television, youtube, facebook, twitch, and any public place in the US. None of those had significant outcry when it was banned, and people bat an eye so little at that status quo that I apparently had to write this comment to remind you.

It’s a small point, but there’s a ton of full nudity on YT. It just can’t be intentionally pornographic.

IME few creators on youtube are willing to risk their channels by taking any risks in that regard.

For example, I'm told the character creator in 'Cyberpunk 2077' offers adjustable penis size - but many streamers and reviewers won't risk showing it. Even comedy channels that love creating zany characters.

After all, would you trust Youtube to detect whether nudity is pornographic context, when they can't even tell if 'white threatens black' is in a chess context?

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by fsflover »

andrewzah wrote: post #5

“ The researchers now suggest that social-media platforms should incorporate chess language in their algorithms to avoid future incidents like this.” Or maybe don’t automate banning YouTube channels via nebulous black boxes? Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

> Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

Or maybe we should stop supporting a monopoly pressured by everyone and switch to distributed PeerTube instead.

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Post by onethought »

Fogest wrote: post #296
onethought wrote: post #266

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I don't really agree that if you're in the social majority you can be upset about racism against your empowered majority position... it just doesn't make sense. That said, if you're white in China/India/Kenya/etc... 100% there is a heap of racism directed at you and I feel for you

I believe you 100% can. If someone's opinion based on solid facts is being dismissed by calling them a "privileged white male" I definitely believe that is very racist. They are making assumptions based on negative stereotypes to dismiss what someone is saying. Even if you don't agree that it is racist you should at least agree it is not productive at all in a conversation. The only objective with a comment like that…

Someone’s opinion based on solid fact? So is it a fact or an opinion?

If you view their reply as not productive and they view your statement as not productive... then maybe stop having that discussion until you can both bring more empathy to the table.

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Post by onethought »

ttt0 wrote: post #282
onethought wrote: post #266

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I don't really agree that if you're in the social majority you can be upset about racism against your empowered majority position... it just doesn't make sense. That said, if you're white in China/India/Kenya/etc... 100% there is a heap of racism directed at you and I feel for you

The actual power is in the hands of the elites, so a minority. Just because you happen to be a part of the largest demographic group doesn't mean you hold any power. For example, would you say the same thing about Africa back when it was under white rule?

True, I did not mean majority, I meant elite. Thanks for that.

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Post by onethought »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #294
onethought wrote: post #266

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I don't really agree that if you're in the social majority you can be upset about racism against your empowered majority position... it just doesn't make sense. That said, if you're white in China/India/Kenya/etc... 100% there is a heap of racism directed at you and I feel for you

> I don't really agree that if you're in the social majority you can be upset about racism against your empowered majority position... it just doesn't make sense. It makes sense for two reasons. The first is that a huge amount of the "anti-white racism" is directed by "white people" against others nominally in the same group, implying that they aren't actually in the same social group and correspondingly that the tar…

As was pointed out in another thread: I should have said elite not majority

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Post by [deleted] »

drak0n1c wrote: post #225
andrewzah wrote: post #5

“ The researchers now suggest that social-media platforms should incorporate chess language in their algorithms to avoid future incidents like this.” Or maybe don’t automate banning YouTube channels via nebulous black boxes? Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

Advertisers, youtubers, users, brands - everyone was happy prior to the era of demonetization. What killed the golden goose was an extremely small set of activists and journalists (specifically Media Matters and Vox) methodically threatening brands with publication of screenshots of their "support" for controversial niche videos. And just enough brand marketing and YouTube employees were cowed, or at least ideologica…

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Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by hvdijk »

murukesh_s wrote: post #376
LordDragonfang wrote: post #345

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Nudity is banned on television, youtube, facebook, twitch, and any public place in the US. None of those had significant outcry when it was banned, and people bat an eye so little at that status quo that I apparently had to write this comment to remind you.

I see no ban on Instagram though.

From Instagram's ToU: "You may not post nude, partially nude, or sexually suggestive photos."

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Post by gherkinnn »

drak0n1c wrote: post #233
FartyMcFarter wrote: post #132

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If someone thinks chess colors are racist, they should get educated on their history first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_and_Black_in_chess#Histo...

Nearly all the outrage over word use and six-figure tax bills for rewording city and federal documents is the result of ignorance of etymology, homonyms, and homophones.

Awomen.
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