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One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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> If not I might as well do this and earn Rs. 100. In fact this attitude is cultivated from childhood in certain business class families. Don't let go of any opportunity of earning a profit, however small it might be. The Ferengi from Star Trek come to mind when I read this. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi * https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ferengi The Rules of Acquisition are always a fun read: * https:/…

What is this crap comment? You are likening a nation of humans to a fictional alien species? This is not useful or insightful, and pretty offensive imo.

We learn from fiction. Try it. And... It's fine if you find it offensive. We don't care.

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"Gaming the system" is also a cultural thing in Greece. In fact, it's so expected that you are perceived to be either out of the loop or a fool for not going the extra mile. I broke friendships with people who claimed that "it's all subjective at the end of the day" whenever I was raising ethical/moral concerns. Imagine not being able to provide a reasonable argument to justify your actions, beyond of "because I'm al…

Post modernism embraces this though, and it is rampant in the West post Kant/Nietzsche. When you create your own truth and morals, you are going to disagree with people about stuff like this :)

Do these people really create their own morals though or just live without them? I'm pretty much a nihilist, but spend a lot of time thinking about ethics and my own values because I know we need them for society to function.

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Overfitting? Sure. But gaming the system? I disagree. Hell, I've heard of companies giving candidates the book to help them prepare for the interview. It's not ideal but this is what the system expects.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game"

Can still hate them for playing the game, if that involves disdain for ethical principles one actually believes in

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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> If not I might as well do this and earn Rs. 100. In fact this attitude is cultivated from childhood in certain business class families. Don't let go of any opportunity of earning a profit, however small it might be. The Ferengi from Star Trek come to mind when I read this. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi * https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ferengi The Rules of Acquisition are always a fun read: * https:/…

I always used to wonder if the races in the star trek universe had any correlation with human ethnicities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi#Comparisons_with_anti-...

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As an Indian, I think here some points I think western world needs to know about India. * "Gaming the system" to get your desired outcome is widely accepted in Indian society. Especially if it doesn't involve breaking any laws (not ethics). Even in many cases Gaming the system by breaking the law is considered OK as long as one doesn't get caught doing it. (In fact this might be the only way to come up in politics in…

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Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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As an Indian, I think here some points I think western world needs to know about India. * "Gaming the system" to get your desired outcome is widely accepted in Indian society. Especially if it doesn't involve breaking any laws (not ethics). Even in many cases Gaming the system by breaking the law is considered OK as long as one doesn't get caught doing it. (In fact this might be the only way to come up in politics in…

This is one of the reasons Indians cheating on the OSCP is such an issue. I don't know if they realize that destroys the value of the cert for everyone... cool you got the cert but now its worthless.

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I'd hardly call this embracing this thought. The hundred dollars you get is nothing when you destroy the environment.

I'll see your destruction and I'll raise you externalization . Yes, this behaviour is rampant throughout Western society, it's pretty much embraced by capitalism. It's still "who cares about $x, as long as I can get my $y". It doesn't really change the argument much if $x is open source and $y is a free t-shirt, or $x is the habitat of these creatures and $y is gallons of oil. Don't really see how postmodernism fits…

Why do people equate capitalism with "Fuck everyone, get money"?

Sure, the people who have the majority of the world's wealth may be unsavory, ruthless folks, but let's not toss the baby out with the bathwater.

Capitalism is the alternative to state-controlled commerce.

If you believe in (here we go with the cringe term) liberty, then you cannot on-premise agree with an economic system that isn't capitalism.

(Whether capitalism ever works out in-practice is another argument entirely. My theory is that given any long-enough amount of time, a small group of actors will amass hugely disproportional wealth, and then start gaming/breaking the system for everyone else, as seems to be human nature.)

It gets really tiring (especially in modern tech culture) to say "I'm a capitalist" and then have people dogpile on you, asking why you want to pillage the environment and steal all the wealth, etc etc.

And then you have to explain, "I want none of that. I just don't want anyone telling you how to live your life, and to have as many opportunities as you can create for yourself."

I say all of this as someone who grew up exceedingly poor, in trailer parks eating peanut butter and crackers, with no higher education.

There are shitty people everywhere. Because some humans are murderers, does not mean all humans are murderers. Become some people are twisted, unethical capitalists, does not mean all capitalists are twisted and unethical.

At some stage of hyper-capitalism, when you hit "oligarch" levels, you've stopped representing capitalistic ideals because you have created a less-free market than when you entered.

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