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Re: Google TV

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Post by rkangel » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 10:21 AM UTC

gertrunde wrote: post #154

Goodness me, this is an exemplary example of the type of website that I just cannot abide. Style over content, and the presentation just plain getting in the way of the information, to the point that the user ends up leaving rather than finding out what the site is attempting to convey. Awful. Just awful.

The group of websites that cause me the most frustration is fancy restaurants. The trend seems to be ending now thankfully, but so many of them have animations, massive graphics and other bits and pieces that make them slow to load, a pain to use and not work on mobile. I just want to look at a menu and then book a table.

Re: Google TV

#392

Post by throwawayinfo » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 10:25 AM UTC

ponker wrote: post #286

allarm wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t have to, it’s completely optional.

For my phone I just prefer fewer things to mess with in general, and a smaller API surface, since I don’t want to be tweaking and untweaking shit on a device which is already so unergonomic. On my desktop I prefer Windows and Linux to mess with stuff.

Then you don't need to do anything. Just use the default.

Re: Google TV

#393

Post by what_ever » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 10:30 AM UTC

ponker wrote: post #286

allarm wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t have to, it’s completely optional.

For my phone I just prefer fewer things to mess with in general, and a smaller API surface, since I don’t want to be tweaking and untweaking shit on a device which is already so unergonomic. On my desktop I prefer Windows and Linux to mess with stuff.

Once again, you don't have to. The phone out of the box comes with default launcher which is completely functional.

Re: Google TV

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Post by Anthony-G » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 11:09 AM UTC

dependsontheq wrote: post #370

cgriswald wrote: post #320

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True. But Apple TV/Apple TV+ are cutting it pretty close.

But I think that is a temporary thing - I don't think Apple TV is going to be long term product - TVs are too smart now

TVs may be “smart” but they are becomingly increasingly user-hostile with regard to tracking and force-feeding advertisements. I want to have the option of using devices that respects my privacy. Hopefully, I’m not alone and there continues to be a market demand for sudh user-friendly products.

Re: Google TV

#395

Post by compsciphd » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 11:15 AM UTC

botto wrote: post #18

So the Google TV dongle is $49.99 in the US but why on earth is it £59.99 in the UK??!! Edit: Clarify it's the dongle

youtube tv is sold in the US, not in the UK. youtubetv subsidizes the cost of the dongle in the US and not in the UK. much like netflix also subsidizes the cost of the dongle. Apparently, google is valuing its ability to push youtube tv with it a lot.

Re: Google TV

#396

Post by ksec » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 11:17 AM UTC

Looking at the Samsung TV ads fiasco, First Gen Google TV, new Google TV, Apple TV,

It seems the whole TV viewing experience, both hardware and software is still mess, just like it was 10 years ago. I guess Steve [1] described it best, the lack of Go to Market Strategy.

I sometimes wonder why cant we build a Tuner that works on all International market.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/11/29/3704270/how-apple-can-bu...

Re: Google TV

#397

Post by seaghost » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 11:29 AM UTC

Another user data harvesting platform.

Re: Google TV

#398

Post by giancarlostoro » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 11:51 AM UTC

vlozko wrote: post #307

giancarlostoro wrote: post #300

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Honestly at this point I am jumping ship altogether although I think I will get the next Xbox console as my TV app device manager especially with the Game Pass. I hate the concept of streaming games but the idea of having most Microsoft games on a game pass is worthwhile they got some solid flagship games that are easily replayable.

Why not both? https://www.windowscentral.com/apple-tv-coming-xbox-consoles

Nice, that just makes it just as likely for me to get an Xbox instead of any other device.

Re: Google TV

#399

Post by smileybarry » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 11:58 AM UTC

Steltek wrote: post #275

pier25 wrote: post #226

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Probably not. In fact Nvidia dumped the Nvidia Shield tablet but kept released new tv devices recently.

Spec-wise, that tablet also held up for longer than expected, even after being discontinued. Although that's also saying something about the abysmal Android tablet market. The Nvidia shield is still amazing although I'll chime in saying my OG rechargeable remote has also failed. The new one takes AAA batteries. Bleh.

> The new one takes AAA batteries. Bleh.

That's preferable in my opinion, because then you can just keep rechargeable AAA batteries on hand and switch them out. Cheaper than proprietary un/removeable rechargeable batteries, more accessible than those coin batteries. (At least here)

Re: Google TV

#400

Post by compsciphd » Thu, Oct 01, 2020, 12:19 PM UTC

tzs wrote: post #255

"Chromecast with Google TV requires a TV with an HDMI port" How come nearly all video dongles want you to plug them into an HDMI port on your TV? Wouldn't it make more sense to plug them in to an HDMI port on your A/V receiver? Unless you have a fairly recent TV and receiver, the TV can only send up to 5.1 DTS or Dolby compressed audio to the receiver, due to bandwidth limits of ARC. You need a system with eARC if yo…

even if plugged into a receiver, the new chromecast doesn't passthrough/bitstream hd audio (dts-ma/dts-x, true-hd/atmos). which means I probably will not be getting it.