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Re: Popular seafood species in sharp decline around the world

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Post by duhuh » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 10:12 PM UTC

missedthecue wrote: post #172

duhuh wrote: post #117

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If I eat seafood I rob from ocean species, illegal labor, the hungry poor, and the future. Sometimes, farmland represents the same problem, sometimes not. Seafood is an unsolved problem globally. It has no form of ethical consumption.

Most seafood is produced and sold by the hungry poor. You're not doing them any favors by boycotting their goods.

I don’t believe humans should operate as pure, replicators– doing any action for the chance to continue to exist. Fishing is global and global fishing runs on slave labor. I am doing them a favor. It’s called ethics for a reason. You are presented with 100 things you can eat. Seafood and cocaine are probably the most unethical. Why not skip them?

Re: Popular seafood species in sharp decline around the world

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Post by duhuh » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 10:15 PM UTC

defnotashton2 wrote: post #362

duhuh wrote: post #117

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If I eat seafood I rob from ocean species, illegal labor, the hungry poor, and the future. Sometimes, farmland represents the same problem, sometimes not. Seafood is an unsolved problem globally. It has no form of ethical consumption.

What impact have your decisions had on unsustainable farming practices? I'll wait

I have lessened the demand by myself and five people I was able to convince. It’s a question of ethics. What ethical stands have you taken? How are they helping?

Re: Popular seafood species in sharp decline around the world

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Post by duhuh » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 10:16 PM UTC

bserge wrote: post #327

duhuh wrote: post #160

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This is a thread about worrying about seafood scarcity already. Not-anytime-soon has arrived on a food-by-food basis. In the case of seafood, it’s an entire food group!

Tbf, seafood is a special category, as most of it can not be farmed (not efficiently, at least), so capturing it from the wild is the easiest, and often only, solution.

It is as special as a canary in a coal mine I suppose

Re: Popular seafood species in sharp decline around the world

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Post by michannne » Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 8:14 PM UTC

legerdemain wrote: post #369

michannne wrote: post #366

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Is this satire?

We shit where we eat, and then we get angry at the turds in our cereal bowls. Who put them there? Is this satire? Yes, fisheries in decline means that, voluntarily or not, we will lose our cedar plank salmon and our sushi-grade tuna. We will instead talk up the pleasures of the sardine, its ennobling humility and its clean taste, but it will be self-delusion covering up an obvious sense of loss, just as celebrating a…

The post I replied to suggested it is somehow reasonable to majorly inhibit a pleasure of life today so that others can potentially experience the inhibited pleasures in the future. The suggestion is comedic to me - "if you're worried about the decline of fish impacting your sushi eating habits, eat less sushi today so we can eat more sushi tomorrow", is what it reads as. The solution is to make more fish, not to have a segment of the population reduce fish consumption so another population can also consume fish. When the population of a country grows, the agricultural regions don't remain the same size - they grow to accommodate the growth in population. You increase your supply, not ration it out - that's how you end up with an abuse of power.