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Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment

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Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment

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Post by LockAndLol »

empath75 wrote: post #218
LockAndLol wrote: post #3

The judgement was made long before Assange even set foot in the US. This is just a show to try and deter other people from exposing their dirty secrets. If they could get Snowden, he'd be treated in the same manner for exposing their misdeeds. It's a rigged game.

Snowden undoubtedly committed a crime, I don't think even he disputes that.

Decades ago it wasn't a crime to own a slave, hit your wife or stop certain groups from voting. Now it is. Just because what Snowden did (whistleblowing) was a crime at the time, doesn't mean that it should've been / should be. Especially if he was given no recourse. IIRC there were others before him who tried to go through the "legal channels", but got nowhere.

Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment

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Post by wonderwonder »

mcs_ wrote: post #263
wonderwonder wrote: post #198

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That makes no sense, he is not a publicly elected official where disclosing health issues is expected. He is a private citizen running a company, the fact that the company is popular and successful should have no bearing at all. Should everyone who starts a company expect to lose all privacy especially health related, or only those that are successful above a set threshold?

People must have their privacy, that is for sure. If I invest something in your company, and you are sick, should I know it?

Probably not, as if you are a normal everyday investor like me you should not be investing in companies where its success hinges on a single person. I love Tesla but I have not invested in it because Musk could get hit by an electric semi tomorrow and the stock would tank.

Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment

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Post by plandis »

nickysielicki wrote: post #18

> In 2012, Assange communicated directly with a leader of the hacking group LulzSec (who by then was cooperating with the FBI), and provided a list of targets for LulzSec to hack. With respect to one target, Assange asked the LulzSec leader to look for (and provide to WikiLeaks) mail and documents, databases and pdfs. In another communication, Assange told the LulzSec leader that the most impactful release of hacked…

> Stand up for journalists. Real journalists.

Are you trying to claim Assange is a journalist? How many credible journalists do you know that provide lists of targets with the intent to illegally hack?

Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment

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Post by plandis »

henearkr wrote: post #14
notkaiho wrote: post #12

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I may be misunderstanding your comment, but Assange is Australian.

Oh, sorry if it was not very clear, I was saying that US treatment of the Assange case was disgusting me. By "American great minds", I was thinking about all the American mathematicians and scientists whose books I passionately devour, and the splendid futuristic projects of some tech corps, which bring sci-fi dreams to reality.

How has the US mistreated him? He’s not even in US custody and the charges are public information. He he’s done what he’s accused of I think he deserves to be in jail.

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Post by lowtolerance »

nickysielicki wrote: post #18

> In 2012, Assange communicated directly with a leader of the hacking group LulzSec (who by then was cooperating with the FBI), and provided a list of targets for LulzSec to hack. With respect to one target, Assange asked the LulzSec leader to look for (and provide to WikiLeaks) mail and documents, databases and pdfs. In another communication, Assange told the LulzSec leader that the most impactful release of hacked…

Assange is not a journalist of any sort, real or otherwise. Journalists don’t actively participate in espionage, they don’t cozy up to ratfucking crooks like Roger Stone. They don’t withhold potentially damaging information because it might harm that align with most closely with their views. And if you believe nothing Wikileaks has ever published has been proven false, then I have a great opportunity for you to buy some waterfront property in Florida.

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Post by lowtolerance »

AndrewBissell wrote: post #294
aka1234 wrote: post #163

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I too am shocked that Wikileaks would publish tabloidish material with little public value. Next thing you know, I'll hear that Wikileaks posted private emails of a government official talking about pizza. Emails which spawned ridiculous conspiracies about satanic child abuse cults headquartered in the basement of a pizza shop that doesn't have a basement. That would never happen. Not at an august, hard-hitting journ…

It is so ridiculous to call the emails that WikiLeaks published "tabloid" just because a conspiracy theory sprung up around bizarre language which was used in a subset of them. Taken as a whole, they revealed absolutely rank corruption in the higher ranks of the DNC.

That’s amazing, where’s the evidence??

Oh right, it’s nowhere. Nowhere at all outside of the “bizarre language” that you retards invented to make a conspiracy out of fucking nothing.

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Post by lowtolerance »

rorykoehler wrote: post #387
recursive wrote: post #273

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You may be waiting for a long time. That doesn't really provide any support for the satanic child sex cult thing either though.

I don’t know what they’re talking about. Could literally be anything but they would only codify something they wanted to hide. It’s very weird but I’m not into speculating.

You’re outwardly speculating that it’s coded speech simply because you lack context.

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

BFatts wrote: post #235
ShamelessC wrote: post #95

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I'm generally on Assange's side in all of this. I agree he shouldn't be charged and this is all a disgrace. Having said that, I once went to wikileaks and found a PDF of Steve Job's supposed STD test which claimed he was HIV positive. That was a surprise to me as my understanding was that he died of cancer. I looked into it and no one could corroborate the story and the general consensus seemed to be that it was fake…

I'm generally against Assange on all of this. Hacking is an illegal activity that results in the disclosure of information that the hacker does not own. This is theft of information and a federal offense. Anyone engaging is nefarious hacking should be jailed, if caught, and never allowed to use technology again. We have very lax laws when it comes to hacking - they need to be stronger.

> We have very lax laws when it comes to hacking - they need to be stronger.

That's what we get for allowing some SV posers to appropriate the word "hacking" for their VC-pandering forums.

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

tptacek wrote: post #335
mindslight wrote: post #327

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> he cloaks his actions in the hard work and bravery of our free press. What specifically are you invoking here as the "free press" ? There is very little free press in the United States. The overwhelming majority of what is called the press consists of mouthpieces for the ruling power structure, analogous to state media in the USSR. I agree it would have been better for documents to be reviewed before publication ra…

The WSJ, WaPo, and NYT are not analogous to the state media of Russia or the Soviet Union, however fun that might be to say on a message board.

> The WSJ, WaPo, and NYT are not analogous to the state media of Russia or the Soviet Union

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/29/corres...

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Post by lowtolerance »

hnThrowaway-123 wrote: post #301
rorykoehler wrote: post #171

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Still waiting for a valid explanation of what pizza is code for because they certainly aren’t talking about pizza the food in those emails.

cp = cheese pizza. code for child porn

What kind of fucking creep sees “cheese pizza” and immediately thinks of child porn? I’m fairly well convinced that the real conspiracy here is that the whole lot of you pizza-gaters are just projecting.
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