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18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by scarface74 »

Ahwleung wrote: post #390
scarface74 wrote: post #378

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So if Apple kept “25 years” of backwards compatibility, should they have been better off bundling a 68K and PPC emulator? Why stop there? They should have kept compatibility with the Apple //e and also bundled a 68K emulator? Someone else was complaining that they didn’t keep FireWire. Should modern Macs come with ADB ports?

Obviously not, but that doesn't prove that there isn't value to having backwards compatibility. Sometimes you just want something to run and not have to touch or change it for a long time. A 20-year old machine that's critical to a factory can run off a serial cable plugged in to an expansion card running software written in the 90's that will still run on Windows 10. Nobody in their right mind would decide to write…

Well, given where all of the PC manufacturers are that were around in 1990 compared to the revenue and profit of just the Mac division, it seems like Apple didn’t make a bad business decision not prioritizing backwards compatibility.

If you compare where Apple is and where Microsoft is also, it doesn’t seem like chasing enterprise PC sales was as good of a long term bet as going after the consumer market....

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by onion2k »

jimktrains2 wrote: post #351
onion2k wrote: post #257

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I don't have any notion that sites should be exactly the same in every browser, but they should be approximately the same. Having two browsers render the same HTML in completely different ways would be very odd.

>Having two browsers render the same HTML in completely different ways would be very odd Or completely normal? Why shouldn't I bump up my minimum don't size to help read text and reduce eyestrain? Ditto for fixing low contrast text.

You should, and the browser should let you. But if the text is set to 14px in the HTML or CSS and your browser is set to display it at the defined size, it should display at 14px. Browser vendors shouldn't decide to ignore the spec of using the defined size and do their own thing instead. That's what was being suggested.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by kaetemi »

dmz73 wrote: post #337
usrusr wrote: post #304

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And so the mystery of why a 32bit version of Windows 10 still exists is solved. What's mildly annoying is that much of the early 32bit Windows software came packaged in 16 bit installers. Office 97 would be such a breeze on modern hardware.

Office 97 can be installed on 64 bit windows 10 with original installer. I have done it just last month and it runs without any problems... and it is fast.

I had some selection rendering issues in Excel, and Word is reporting some kind of registry corruption on startup. Otherwise, works fine.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by forgotmypw77 »

geocrasher wrote: post #90

These simple sites show us something profound: If you want something to last, don't base it on something that won't last. There are a some technologies that will never allow somebody to build a site and leave it unchanged for 20 or 25 years. Cold Fusion comes to mind. Almost nobody hosts it anymore for one. Can you imagine running the same WordPress version for 25 years? The version of PHP it runs on will be EOL long…

this is why perl, txt, and static html are the top-level languages and formats for my project.

with some tweaking, it can be viewed in just about any browser, down to ie3, lynx, mosaic, netscape, and opera3.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by kaushalmodi »

sidarape wrote: post #271
dwheeler wrote: post #186

My personal site was posted on September 12, 1999, is still updated, and has no problems. It;s a static site that mostly uses straight HTML/CSS. There are a few scripts that generate pages, but generating HTML/CSS pretty easy. https://dwheeler.com . Geocrasher said: > I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to build a site to last 25 years without numerous redesigns, build a static HTML page. Yes. I don't get pai…

You could use a static website generator such as Jekyll or Hugo. Then, if the tools stop working for any reason, you always have the generated HTML than you can update.

Hugo has a single static binary. So the site will always generate the same way with the same binary.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by TingPing »

smush wrote: post #335
dwheeler wrote: post #186

My personal site was posted on September 12, 1999, is still updated, and has no problems. It;s a static site that mostly uses straight HTML/CSS. There are a few scripts that generate pages, but generating HTML/CSS pretty easy. https://dwheeler.com . Geocrasher said: > I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to build a site to last 25 years without numerous redesigns, build a static HTML page. Yes. I don't get pai…

No kidding. Already, I've found some interesting articles to read. I'm taking a look at https://dwheeler.com/essays/easy-cross-platform-gui.html , which has references to XULRunner etc. which since 2009 have fallen out of favor. Would you continue to recommend those wanting to invest in (for the 80% of use cases) wxWidgets for FLOSS cross-platform GUI apps? BoaConstructor et. al look interesting. Thanks for taking th…

wxWidgets is a poor platform abstraction that just results in the lowest common denominator of UI.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by elamje »

My page(https://www.towardssoftware.com) isn't quite that old, but it gets the job done with an incredibly simple content manager - plain html/css editing.

There is almost no javascript, and I have to say, it's done wonderful so far. I have tried Hugo to manage stuff, and a couple of others, but for a lot of blog type of stuff, html just works!

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by tren »

My 83 year old dad has updated his website since the mid 90s, it's actually pretty interesting to look back it in the Wayback machine, the design is exactly the same in 97. He'd really get a kick out of it if someone commented on one of his articles. http://aoi.com.au/

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by Fice »

tech-no-logical wrote: post #377
Moru wrote: post #371

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I wish I could find the movie on youtube again, a demonstration of collaborative text editor from 1960-ish. Been looking for it a number of times just this year.

from the mother of all demos (1968) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJDv-zdhzMY&feature=youtu.be... I suppose you mean this video ?

A better link: https://www.dougengelbart.org/content/view/374/ And also: https://archive.org/details/dougengelbartarchives?sort=title... because youtube videos are ephemeral.
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