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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by efreak »

antisthenes wrote: post #306
alerighi wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, they are required by law (at least in Europe) and we can't do much about it. You can't say use a browser API to set a global setting for them, because GDPR explicitly requires that every website must get the user consent for them. Of course the real solution (and the reason why GDPR introduced the banner) is for website to stop using cookies for tracking their users and thus have no reason to put the b…

> You can't say use a browser API to set a global setting for them, because GDPR explicitly requires that every website must get the user consent for them. I can see why that prevents a browser from auto-accepting all cookies, but how in the world does this logic apply to me if I want to deny consent to 100% of the websites to use cookies? Set the default on the browser to deny all consent, and show the cookie notifi…

The browser already has logic/settings controlling which cookies are accepted (first party, all, none). These settings have existed in most browsers for years. It's unfortunate that the cookie law didn't build on this in some way.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by aganame »

miohtama wrote: post #366

Note that with some tinkering you can already manually enable WebRender, fast GPU and Rust based rendering engine, in stable Firefox https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21945206

Note also that enabling webrender might make your experience (including performance) worse.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by rtpg »

DrJaws wrote: post #383
coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

wouldn't firefox dev edition give you the tools you need? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

FF still has some difficulties with some stuff (I've had issues with sourcemaps in particular, they would always work in Chrome but sometimes don't in FF)

I get most of my stuff working in FF so don't need to jump to Chrome most of the time but for some gnarly stuff I end up in Chrome

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by rtpg »

marcosdumay wrote: post #219
hedora wrote: post #94

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Slack has started disabling unrelated features if you disallow notifications. For instance, you can’t add channels to the “ignore @here” list if notifications are off. I’m sure this’ll get worse over time. FF needs a “disable notifications, but lie to the website and say they’re enabled” button.

I don't understand why browsers would ever not lie about this.

"Why are my notifications for Slack not working?"

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by wyre »

Ghexor wrote: post #132
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #84

Here's my Firefox wishlist: - Open new windows more quickly. Firefox feels sluggish (on Mac) even though it isn't, simply because it opens new windows far more slowly than Safari or Chrome. - Use the platform native key store. I don't want my passwords stored unencrypted on disk. But I don't want to enter a separate master password either. I do want to use fingerprint/face unlock on mobile to reveal passwords. - Give…

Regarding #3 you might want to check out the "I don't care about cookies" add-on. I use I on Firefox mobile and desktop - don't know if there's a chromium version. Almost forgot I use it which is the most positive review an add-on like this could receive.

https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/

Looks available on a gamut of different browsers.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by School-Cotton »

martin_a wrote: post #183
bitcurious wrote: post #97

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Re:qwant France has a more permissive surveillance regime than the US[0], and as a foreign (US) user I have no recourse if they spy on me. Furthermore, here are some quotes from qwant: >We do not use any cookies or other advertising tracers to create your profile for commercial purposes. This means that you can use Qwant with confidence, we will never try to establish your psychological or commercial profile to sell…

> France has a more permissive surveillance regime than the US[0], and as a foreign (US) user I have no recourse if they spy on me. Hahahahaha, enough with the jokes. Comparing France to the US... Thinking you actually had some kind or chance of recourse against any of the three letter agencies. You are funny! > Note the "for commercial purposes" in the first sentence, and the "to sell it to third parties" in the sec…

> With Google you can be sure that they sell your data to _anybody_

This is not true. There is no documented case of Google selling any user's personal data to anyone.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by bagacrap »

Twirrim wrote: post #40

"Firefox replaces annoying notification request pop-ups with a more delightful experience, by default for all users. The pop-ups no longer interrupt your browsing, in its place, a speech bubble will appear in the address bar when you interact with the site." That should pretty much kill off a lot of the notification request crap, especially if Chrome follows suit. I can envision the conversion rate massively falling…

almost simultaneous announcement from Chrome: https://blog.chromium.org/2020/01/introducing-quieter-permis...

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by dannyw »

radicalriddler wrote: post #296
hedora wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slack has started disabling unrelated features if you disallow notifications. For instance, you can’t add channels to the “ignore @here” list if notifications are off. I’m sure this’ll get worse over time. FF needs a “disable notifications, but lie to the website and say they’re enabled” button.

I feel like if a specific browser, ie. Firefox went down this path, it wouldn't take long until websites stopped supporting that browser. It'd take browser wide action to take on big players such as Slack imo.

No, no company is going to choose to see a -5% dip in overall engagement just because they want to fight a web browser.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by generatorguy »

zipperhead wrote: post #268
L_Rahman wrote: post #261

I'm honestly surprised that we aren't talking about tab behavior here. Literally the only reason I keep using Chrome is that no matter how many tabs I have open, they're all visible at the top. There's visual persistence of state. On Firefox, even with the trick of reducing minimum tab width, my tabs overflow and I have to click through to get different groups of tabs. It is utterly maddening and I don't know why eve…

If you want to talk about tab behaviour, you might want to have a look at the Tree Style Tabs extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... Tabs are placed in the sidebar, nested in collapsible trees, with a scrollbar. It's a major game changer.

At that point how are they different from bookmarks? I suppose with tab tree every page is ‘bookmarked’ until you close it, or bookmark it for real.

Personally I save anything I actually want to refer back to as a PDF since the bookmarked web page will probably disappear.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by dannyw »

jdlyga wrote: post #41

I keep trying Chrome out every so often, but there's little usability issues that keep bringing me back to Firefox. For example, Chrome never wants to bring me to the correct sites when you start typing letters. It's always a site I maybe visited once (like nypost instead of news.ycombinator.com)

That's because one of Chrome team's KPIs is how many Google searches are performed through the Omnibar, and better tab search would decrease that KPI and decrease Google ad revenue.

Think about it: it's a web browser literally built by the biggest search company in the world. The latest version of Chrome will even add Google Drive files to the omnibar search for G Suite users.

There is no excuse that they have a worse omnnibox search than Firefox.

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