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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#392

I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers. As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

What kind of fake circular logic is this?

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#393

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They could be (and are on Illumos and FreeBSD) if only they were designed with that from the start. Linux has always made the mistake of not designing things to be safe and secure from the outset (cgroups/namespaces, btrfs, etc.).

BSD is also an application desert compared to GNU/linux. It's always going to be a scale between user desires and security needs. BSD is rock solid but moves glacially slow. Most devs need more speed than that. Most users demand it. There's a reason despite the elitist attitude the Arch Illuminati take that people want Arch. It's a really stable bleeding edge release.

I assume you're talking about desktop applications? If so, I don't think the advantages of containerization really apply like they do on the server side.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Leaving aside the App Store issues, ExactScan Pro is a great app and an essential part of my paperless workflow. I purchased it from them in 2015, then purchased an update from the App Store this summer. It's worth a look whether you want to support an exodus from the MAS or if you just want an awesome scanner program.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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What is this weird narrative that pre-iPhone smartphones didn't exist in the US, and somehow only Europe and Asia had these "advanced" devices? We had smartphones too. All the negatives you mentioned (no physical keyboard, copy & paste, etc.) were brought up by lots of people when the iPhone was first released. Ultimately it didn't matter, and the iPhone was a breakout hit and every single smartphone on sale today is…

Man, everybody had blackberrys in the US. It was a huge success. Apple took a risk decision of having a purely touch-based smartphone, and the bet paid awesomely. But by any other aspects, the blackberry was a more useful and powerful device for professionals than the IPhone.

> But by any other aspects, the blackberry was a more useful and powerful device for professionals than the IPhone.

The first iPhone, sure, no arguments there. The whole point of the iPhone was to make smartphones more useable for non-professionals.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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Actually; now that I think about it, from a user perspective I also really dislike the App Store. I used to _love_ it, I would check weekly for new things, maybe there was some new shiny (often beautiful) program to do something really well. The experience was on the 'better than passable' side, nobodies favourite interface maybe, but certainly not terrible. But I actually avoid the App Store these days, both on MacO…

"dark patterns" alright...

BTW, all developers still have to submit their apps to Apple for "notarization" in Catalina, even if they don't distribute through macOS AppStore --it is partially enforced now and will be fully enforced in the next few weeks.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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> I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. I don't see any reason why one would trust Apple more than a random third party dev. To me they are one and the same.

16 years of managing personal information and credit card details of 100’s of millions of people. Without any known data breach.

And no marketing spam from third parties since Apple doesn't sell your information.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#398

Biggest pet peeve: Why the hell hasn’t the iOS App Store password prompt been updated to allow me to use my password manager?

This one drives me crazy! My fingerprint never scans properly, so for any app download I have to manually open my password manager to copy/paste the password in.

It actually discourages me from downloading apps. If the fingerprint doesn’t scan on the first try I usually give up and just live without the app. It’s usually not worth the hassle of copy/pasting.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#399

I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers. As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

I'm guessing this isn't what you meant, but the endgame of "Apple, please make things hard for developers" is there's no apps left for you to use that aren't made by Apple, because they made it too hard for developers. A balance has to be struck somewhere. Developers increasingly do not like where Apple is placing the balance (generally on the side of 'go screw yourself, time to rework your app for our latest guideli…

Xcode has generally supported the two newest macOS releases, with its current minimum OS being Mojave, which supports Macs from 2012 and if you pick up a $50 GPU upgrade, even 2010 Mac Pro’s. Almost all of those same Macs will be supported when Catalina becomes the new minimum.

This doesn’t seem all that onerous. If you’re stuck on a Mac that’s a decade old for some reason all it’ll take to be able to develop again is picking up a $150-$200 Mac mini or iMac on eBay/Craigslist.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#400
I’m curious what’s the eventual revenue balance will look like few years after they get off App Store. It can seem evil and 30% is a steep fee, but it is also a very good distribution channel.

Hope they can find alternative ways to market and it beats those 30% and related hassle.

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