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Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Post by cptskippy »

skinnymuch wrote: post #311
cptskippy wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even if you add inflation, the resurgence is still there. IE for LP/EP, 2019 will beat out 1989. I'm having trouble viewing those graphs on mobile but it looks like in 1989 vinyl only had >4% market share and 34.6 million units, where as in 2018 it had >3% with 16.7 million units. It's not nothing and it's not a large part of the overall market. It appears to be smaller than 30 years ago when it was considered a de…

I can be convinced otherwise as statistics isn’t a strength of mine, but those two numbers are by units. Unit share doesn’t seem to make sense as a comparison point to me. A single or ringtone shouldn’t be given equal respect to a full collection of songs. Downloaded singles are 75% of the unit market share but only 5% of the revenue market share in 2018. 2018 will be the last year downloaded singles have a greater r…

I agree that unit shares don't make sense, I was referencing the volume % which seems less absurd. The % of volume that LP had in 2018 was similar to the late % in the 80s. My point was that in the late 80s vinyl was "dead" and it's still "dead".

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Post by aguzzi94 »

So interesting! I think that on a philosophical level it matches the trend that, while the world keeps on being more and more caught by fakeness and mediocrity, there's a counter culture and counter sentiment that yearns for something authentic again. There's still hope guys!

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Post by bitwize »

cosmotic wrote: post #265
tzs wrote: post #71

Is anyone working on a reasonably priced turntable to play vinyl discs without degrading them? In the mid '80s, Finial Technology announced such a turntable, and had a working unit at CES in 1986. It had a stylus that contained laser interferometers that could very accurately and precisely measure the distance from the stylus to the grove walls. It kept the stylus near, but not touching, the groove, getting the audio…

If only there were a durable music format that had absolute perfect quality, didn't need special handling, no DRM, no compression artifacts, was stereo, and handled frequencies all the way down and all the way up to where humans can hear. Oh, the CD!

Sorry, but if you want your music to sound like God, it's analog from mic to speakers or GTFO.

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Post by core-questions »

stormbrew wrote: post #207
core-questions wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stands to reason it wouldn't have been impossible to make an analogue medium using similar technologies. Imagine the refraction angle varying continuously and some wide-range pickup that converts to electricity. _why_, of course, is a different question

Laserdisc was an analog implementation of that technology. Eventually it also carried digital audio a la CD but the video and the original audio encoding were analog.

Are you sure that's not this RCA CED thing they're talking about?

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Post by cr0sh »

core-questions wrote: post #396
stormbrew wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laserdisc was an analog implementation of that technology. Eventually it also carried digital audio a la CD but the video and the original audio encoding were analog.

Are you sure that's not this RCA CED thing they're talking about?

I'll second it - LaserDisc was an analog medium - not digital. CED was analog also, but used a "stylus" to pick up capacitance changes from the "groove" depth. There's plenty of information out there on both processes; very interesting to see, you should check it out...

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Post by cosmotic »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #293
cosmotic wrote: post #265

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If only there were a durable music format that had absolute perfect quality, didn't need special handling, no DRM, no compression artifacts, was stereo, and handled frequencies all the way down and all the way up to where humans can hear. Oh, the CD!

> durable ... Oh, the CD! In my experience CD’s are anything but durable.

If you look at the side of a CD, nearly all of that clear plastic you see is the protective layer. You can (or at least could) purchase a device to shave off a very thin layer of plastic to remove all the scratches on the surface to resurrect the disk.
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