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Apple kills the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple kills the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro

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Post by lostgame »

notafraudster wrote: post #39

To me the bigger news here is killing the MacBook. It's a weird product -- crazy overpriced, and with a bunch of concessions in terms of the design, but I like that it's extremely light (33% lighter than a MacBook Air) and has no fan. I had hoped never to buy another laptop with a fan again. Yes, I know performance sucks, which is why I run most of my code on a server instead of locally on my computer. I think really…

The 12" MacBook just made absolutely no sense in their lineup.

It was lighter and thinner than the MacBook Air - so why was it not the MacBook Air? This is the lack of product logic Jobs killed when he returned to Apple.

Re: Apple kills the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro

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Post by m463 »

giobox wrote: post #362
m463 wrote: post #350

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I thought the mac pro wasn't super expandable. No spinning drives possible, miniscule flash drive space, no pcie power plugs.

Although apple doesn’t publicise the fact all that much on the new Mac Pro coming later this year, it does actually have two SATA ports and some 8 pin power connectors. Apple don’t provide the necessary “cage” to mount the drives (at least as far as we know so far), but third parties have already announced some products that mount internally and use these ports to connect a bunch of disks. As for power, I believe the…

Thank you, that does sound a little more hopeful.

(It does matter to me, I have owned several mac pro towers and wouldn't touch the trash can with a 10-foot pole)

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Post by m463 »

scarface74 wrote: post #370
m463 wrote: post #350

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I thought the mac pro wasn't super expandable. No spinning drives possible, miniscule flash drive space, no pcie power plugs.

Just to make sure we are on the same page, the parent poster said the “new Mac Pro”. https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ They haven’t announced the maximum amount of flash drive space you can get from them (and I wouldn’t pay Apple prices for it anyway), but you can get 4TB of overpriced SSD storage on the current iMac Pro.

but they said:

"Storage Configure up to 4TB of SSD storage"

(You can get that from a single 2.5" ssd right now on amazon)

Sort of underspec'd when you consider the 1.5tb of RAM you can configure.

Re: Apple kills the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro

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Post by scarface74 »

m463 wrote: post #393
scarface74 wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to make sure we are on the same page, the parent poster said the “new Mac Pro”. https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ They haven’t announced the maximum amount of flash drive space you can get from them (and I wouldn’t pay Apple prices for it anyway), but you can get 4TB of overpriced SSD storage on the current iMac Pro.

but they said: "Storage Configure up to 4TB of SSD storage" (You can get that from a single 2.5" ssd right now on amazon) Sort of underspec'd when you consider the 1.5tb of RAM you can configure.

Would you really want a lot of internal storage space on it? Wouldn’t you want a separate redundant external very fast SAN?

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Post by kediz »

wildrhythms wrote: post #356
kediz wrote: post #244

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Speaking from my past experience, any computer would suffice. But if you want to run decent IDE and don't want to wait for minutes for compilation (for some database and system classes), you might want to buy a laptop with decent CPU.(gen 7/8 i5 and above should suffice). Buying apple product is already "spending extra".

I have a CS degree and never, once, compiled anything that took more than a few seconds in undergrad (mostly Java). I used a 2013 MacBook Air. What are you compiling that’s taking minutes? I’m curious.

Database implementation in C++. It has many components(~40 header files and 20 test cases). If I make change to one of the "essential header", such as BufferManager.h, it will recompile almost everything.

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Post by chisleu »

teamski wrote: post #385
chisleu wrote: post #323

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I'm addicted to CMD+C/CMD+V. I've tried making it happen in Linuxes and windows, but always with failures in one app or another, or having to configure each individual application I use independently. The keyboard is the reason I love mac for running my Linux clusters. If I didn't have that, I would have the fantastic UX features like instant scrolling. Scrolling anywhere else is a choppy and laggy nightmare for me.

Just put Ctrl on Caps and then ctrl+c and +v is on par or or even better. Don't know anyone who is using the original control. Even better: create a tap/hold key with Esc/Ctrl on Caps. Then you have a superior keyboard experience because the alt keys are better positioned and usable. On Macs you have just Cmd as the only sane/reachable modifier key compared to crtl and alt on Windows/Linux. However you could also som…

Pinkies suck. alt on windows was fine, but ctrl's keyboard mappings on windows / linux has always been a pain for me.

Re: Apple kills the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro

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Post by teamski »

chisleu wrote: post #396
teamski wrote: post #385

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Just put Ctrl on Caps and then ctrl+c and +v is on par or or even better. Don't know anyone who is using the original control. Even better: create a tap/hold key with Esc/Ctrl on Caps. Then you have a superior keyboard experience because the alt keys are better positioned and usable. On Macs you have just Cmd as the only sane/reachable modifier key compared to crtl and alt on Windows/Linux. However you could also som…

Pinkies suck. alt on windows was fine, but ctrl's keyboard mappings on windows / linux has always been a pain for me.

You are faster pressing Caps with your pinkie than Cmd with your thumb.
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