Live data from Hacker News

Reinventing Firefox for Android

blog.mozilla.org

391–395 of 395 posts

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's great that you have political reasons to use Firefox. But to be most effective, you have to recognize that most other users won't care about it that strongly, so you have to use arguments that matter to them in a practical way. This way, you can switch your acquaintances to use Firefox, and they'll stay with it by inertia. I'd say that's a win-win.

> It's great that you have political reasons to use Firefox. I don't think I am making myself clear. Everyone has a cultural and political profile that dictates some choices and it doesn't matter if they acknowledge it or not. > But to be most effective, you have to recognize that most other users won't care about it that strongly, so you have to use arguments that matter to them in a practical way. Oh, but the priva…

> Oh, but the privacy and anti-ad argument is a strong political argument that will outlive the tech of the day.

Right, but that doesn't matter an inch if you can't use it to convince people to switch to a FLOSS browser.

> It's an easy and short term win-win until the next HN article "ff slower than chrome in test XYZ, jump ships everyone !".

And then it's time to make political arguments, when they're already using Firefox, are accustomed to it and have all its configurations and workflows in this tool. This way you use the powerful force of inertia in your favor, instead of fighting it.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#392
post #364
post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One option is to attempt (despite of all of the obstacles they might put in place..) to increase Firefox's market share, perhaps by spreading the word about privacy concerns and/or ux benefits. Another might be adblocker-esque trusted and shared community-maintained lists along with an add-on (does this exist?) for per-domain user agent mocking. Hopefully with enough adoption (i.e integrated into ublock) that it redu…

But why would market share matter if the browser is more than capable of handling whatever content a site serves. I don't see this relevant to the issue. I think the fact that Firefox doesn't announce the device's model in its UA could be a factor so some sites fall back to their lower quality version by default but it sucks that we can't force the higher quality version.

Alienating users for using adblocker-capable software might be a more difficult sell as the group gets larger.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#393

To any Mozilla/Firefox developer reading this. I try to convert people to Firefox. The number one reason people switch, by far, is because mobile has add on support. So I say to push this front and center in marketing (I know this is a preview). People are reluctant to switch their desktop browser because chrome pretty much has the same features. But it they switch their mobile browsers they also switch their desktop…

Also please reduce the amount of different available versions to 2 max! The current release, and the preview in Beta channel.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#394
Firefox Preview is dope. Hot off the shelf, and it's as swift as a fox. Maybe hopeful but I feel this browser is on fire. Now just need to work on the ux like the button for `read` mode. Bye, G.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#395
post #344

This is a great step in the right direction …but I really don’t like the thing that slides up at the bottom of the screen. It takes the place of content which is 99.99% the reason I’m there. Not to share our bookmark. If I want to do that, I’ll find it in the menu. And is it just me that really, really needs a fast way to switch tabs to use a browser? Chrome lets me swipe across the bar at the top of the screen, but…

Please allow swiping the address bar to switch tabs. Otherwise it's just too slow. That is what keeps me away from using Firefox on mobile (15 years Firefox user).

I'm wondering if I should fork Firefox mobile...
Post reply on HN