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Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Could you give us a link to a great random grandma with a gopro video? I have been to what I thought was deep in the Internet recipe mines and never saw this.

Probably not a GoPro but Chinese food channels seem to fit this description fairly often. Here’s one https://youtu.be/fz_aSsuhg8Y

I learned a dozen things watching that video. Wow, thanks to you and the chef there.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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This is a direct effect of using search engines to navigate the web. If we'd stuck to following links curated by actual people (link-rings and other nice inventions) then we'd have never had this problem in the first place. Unfortunately the garbage is here to stay and the good content is totally drowned in a sea of trash.

Sadly, this was LookSmart back in 1998. It was an in-house edited directory, but I told the CEO we should build a pagerank that diffuses to unlisted sites as well.

A pretty good web directory at the time was cheap, about $12 million a year for editors, but Google had 10+ years where it did better with unsupervised algorithms, so nobody spent any time on integrating human curators.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Protagonist shames people who work in marketing, calls them bottom feeders, low skill workers and spammers. Protagonist’s product offers ‘marketing emails’ service

There's a bit of a difference between talking to people who have asked to hear from you and obfuscating the way people find information by creating noise.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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"site:reddit.com" is more useful, and filters out pages that just happen to mention reddit.

https://duckduckgo.com/bang

I use ddg, and I use site:reddit.com. Reddit's internal search engine isn't as good for general web searches like this (which is what the ! redirects to).

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Indeed most of the content on the web is SEO fluff or veiled attempts to push an affiliate link. Worse, almost every site has a cookie “preference” popup (when everyone knows the preference is just the minimum necessary cookies), a newsletter signup popup, and a browser notification request popup. Add to that the autoplaying videos that will pop out into their own overlay if you scroll away plus the rotating ads of d…

I still remember to this day the experience I had with the Miranda IM messenger -- I was signed it to at least 6 services (ICQ, AIM, Yahoo and a few others). 40MB of RAM during the time when 1GB RAM on an average PC became the affordable norm, no lag ever , instant rendering, everything works instantly, plus a lot of possible customisation -- themes, emoticon packs, you name it. Same with web. Search for something, g…

Miranda was cool. I vividly remember it.

I also vividly remember banner ads at that time, there were a few popular sizes. Some of the first ad-filtering proxies based their blocking algorithms on the sizes.

When AdWords came it felt almost beneficial, because connections were slow and often metered.

SEO tricks proliferated at the time (say, 2000), too, of more stupid sorts because search engines were not that sophisticated yet, including Google.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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I wonder if the web will saturate and clog, start to cost more to keep up and maintain and lose users that feels walking around and talking is simpler.

this is already true

how much ? is it nascent or do you see slightly large changes ?

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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This is 100% how search engine optimization works, the consultants are correct. As a marketer, when I search for marketing information on Google 70%-90% of the time all of the stuff on the 1st page generally isn't teaching me anything I didn't already know. But as someone who does this exact thing, I know how expensive good content is - hiring an author to write 3,000 words of valuable information for a reader can co…

What I don't like about your line of thinking is that creating such content should even cost money. Knowledge should be free at our point in time and supposed evolutional stage. But it's not. I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. But I wouldn't charge money for it. Knowledge should be free. And internet should have become mega yellow pages on steroids like a decade ago.

The knowledge is free. It's available with a click from Google.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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I append "reddit" to any query not meant for a productive task. Except now the internet is mostly reddit for me, which kinda bums me out. Especially given the new js-heavy design. In 2019, if I want reliable search about something I know nothing about I must first search on google, then try again with "reddit" appended, then change www.reddit.com to old.reddit.com, then parse through what are often questionable answe…

Google used to have a filter to only show discussions which I used constantly until they removed it. It's the only way to find actual reviews of some products without a million pages of blogspam

Oh, you're right - I was going to say that I often used this filter, but apparently I didn't even notice it's gone.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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What I don't like about your line of thinking is that creating such content should even cost money. Knowledge should be free at our point in time and supposed evolutional stage. But it's not. I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. But I wouldn't charge money for it. Knowledge should be free. And internet should have become mega yellow pages on steroids like a decade ago.

The knowledge is free. It's available with a click from Google.

It’s also available without Google.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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This is 100% how search engine optimization works, the consultants are correct. As a marketer, when I search for marketing information on Google 70%-90% of the time all of the stuff on the 1st page generally isn't teaching me anything I didn't already know. But as someone who does this exact thing, I know how expensive good content is - hiring an author to write 3,000 words of valuable information for a reader can co…

> The first thing I thought when I saw Elon Musk's writing AI was how powerful of a search marketing tool this is.

"Search marketing" is the current euphemism for spamming?

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