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Re: Google .dev domain early access

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If I had to bet, the majority of .dev pages will be engineers posting their portfolio, not startups building developer tools.

Github.com/devname is way better than devname.dev

If your github profile is your resume, yes it is. But it not so good if your resume contains other things.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Paid google products, like google domains, have a 24-hour helpline https://domains.google.com/contactus I've heard that if you call during the day you get someone who's actually competent, not just some T1 support person.

Doesn't matter the level of support, the CEO of Cloudflare was involved and still ended up bringing politics into infrastructure.

Who is a good/trustworthy registrar then?

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Along those lines, if Google decides I’m a bot or nefarious developer as seems to mistakenly happen on occasion judging from recent hacker news posts, will I then lose my domain name? Or at least access to it? At this point tying any major asset solely to a Google account feels risky.

I wouldn't lease the domain through Google domains. Use a different registrar --- if possible, one that you'll be able to trust. That registrar will work with the registry of the TLD, which would be google in this case, and has a much better chance of actually resolving issues than if you were a direct customer of Google Domains.

What registrar would you suggest? I have some on Google but I think I want to transfer now.

I also have some on Namecheap, are those safe?

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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It's risk management through diversification attempts. Google, like any other large scale extremely successful single product[1] company, hedges market risks in occupying "hot" spaces. Same with MS, Apple and all other giants, even in non-tech. [1] see financial report of the last year (10K). Search for "We operate our business in multiple operating segments. Google is our only reportable segment. None of our other s…

It's kind of amazing that after all this time, they haven't created anything worth reporting outside of the add business.

Youtube, maps, phones?

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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This "early-access" price which decreases over time is an approximation of a Dutch auction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction Dutch auctions are incentive-compatible - they allocate the resource to the person that gains the highest utility for having it. Maybe Google got some of the people working on ads auctions to design this pricing structure.

> they allocate the resource to the person that gains the highest utility for having it

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Any large company is able to drop a ton of money on something that has marginal utility for them, whereas a small business that would gain much more utility from it may be outbid just by virtue of having the wrong opponents.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Of course they do. Let's Encrypt provides DV (Domain Validation). Not OV (Organization Validation). Obviously .dev is intended for software development and most domains there would probably be using DV only so this might not apply to it, though.

OV is useless. No consumers look at it. It’s just a sad attempt for CAs to trick people into paying for something they don’t need.

Seeing the organisation name next to the lock icon definitely gives me an extra layer of warm and fuzzy feelings. I’d say it has some value for those that can pay for it.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Alphabet has too much cash. They have a well established track record of enthusiastically backing exciting new projects way outside of their core competency just to dump them like hot garbage several years later. They also compete in random new industries each time this happens. It doesn't seem like a smart move to lease a domain from a politically active mega-monopoly that might decide to randomly become your compet…

Hi. I'm the Tech Lead of Google Registry, the team that is launching .dev (not to be confused with the linked Google Domains, which is one of many registrars selling .dev domains to end users). You'll be glad to know that TLDs can't simply be discontinued like other products might be. ICANN doesn't allow it. The procedures in place preventing a live TLD from shutting down are called EBERO; more details here: https://…

> You'll be glad to know that TLDs can't simply be discontinued like other products might be. ICANN doesn't allow it

Except if your website was the daily stormer.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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I guess I just don't like multi-billion dollar companies coming in and dictating that I change my workflow for their cash grabs.

Who bought it is irrelevant. It could have been released to the public in a similar way to .com and the same issue would remain. The .dev TLD was never reserved for your dev use. If you had been doing it correctly and following the RFC, you wouldn’t have to change anything with your workflow. Now, if they ever release .test for public use then I’ll grab my pitchfork with you.

The fact that it is legal doesn’t make it any less of a PITA though.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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I don't understand the bile here, nor the alternative. Today there are no .dev domains, so anything is an improvement: today you can't use them, tomorrow you can choose to if you think it makes sense. Re: price, say the .dev registrar decides to offer domains for a hobby-dev-friendly $1 flat fee, first come first served. Wouldn't that just immediately lead to a resale market where predatory squatters register all the…

I think it’s not cool to offer “early bird” registration for thousands of dollars. So Google is endorsing that rich developers should get the best domain names? How are they reserving for themself? I think it would be cooler to have programming challenges or something neat. But a cash grab just seems kind of, lame I guess. I wouldn’t say I have bile, but I went from “this might be cool” reading the headline to “this…

In an idealized economic model, "rich developers" will get their desired domain names anyway as they can offer a large sum of money to the "poor developers" to give up their domain name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coase_theorem

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