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Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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post #359

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You don't have every single car brand with their own fuel at the gas station right?

If a car brand did, I would find it surprising that a buyer of that brand would complain about it.

He would complain if he was forced to buy _only_ that brand's gasoline.

That's in fact the approach of many printer manufacturers regarding toner/ink cartridges, and usually users complain about that.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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post #207

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Maybe I'm missing the forest for the trees but... what possible reason would you have for taking a Chromecast to a coffee shop?

Campuses also have this kind of security. I can't use a Chromecast or a Google Home on my college campus because my school's IT team blocks all DNS servers except their own.

I used to travel with a Chromecast so I could cast in my hotel room. I finally gave up, since it never worked in any hotel I stayed in.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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>My Chromecast went through massive amount of trouble to use Google's DNS servers No it didn't, it just queried 8.8.8.8 instead of whatever DNS server your DHCP configuration told it to use. Putting "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in /etc/resolv.conf and marking it read-only would have the same effect. Doesn't look like much trouble does it?

Is it reasonable to fail if you can't access a specific DNS server? This is unexpected behavior. And I don't have access to the /etc/resolv.conf on my Chromecast, that's the problem! Anyway, there's a new thread on this specific phenomenon. I'm glad I'm not the only one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19170671

If it's a hot-fix for ISP troubles then I can imagine it being overlooked. Nobody working at Google would ever fail to connect to 8.8.8.8 while developing it.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

#394

This should bother people here more than it does. The last thing the Internet needs is even more dependence upon Google. They've made it quite clear through their actions that they're not supporters of a free and open Internet: https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-l... If people don't push back against these kinds of things, Google will continue to abuse their power. There shouldn't be an army o…

I am not sure we really dependent on Google. The exodus has already started to abandon surveillance capitalism entirely and it will only accelerate with GDPR and other means that states are pushing back on these companies.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Sounds interesting. Do you have a write up about creating such a setup?

No, I don't, but it's conceptually pretty easy (the devil is always in the details). I'm sure you could find something on the net describing this better. What I've done is, first, to block the HTTPS port from going anywhere except to my proxy. If you want to use HTTPS in my network, you have to install my cert. That cert is used to negotiate the HTTPS connection to the proxy. The proxy then has access to the plain-te…

How do you cope with devices that do not allow the installation of a new CA root?

I suspect the answer is "I don't use them", but that's going to be a blocker for mostly everyone.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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FWIW, Chrome does this as well. Its DNS prefetch feature will ignore your local hosts file and configured DNS servers. It creates annoying problems if you have a VPN where some hosts resolve differently than they do publicly. Granted, in this case if you block Google's DNS servers from routing, Chrome will use your system's name resolution configuration.

TIL! This upsets me more than the Chromecast using Google's DNS. I barely use Chrome anymore (just for testing really) but the thought that any domain I wish to go to can be overridden by the browser by default - that's scary. I mean what if Google doesn't like your website's content. They can block it on their DNS server and 99.999% of Chrome users would think something was wrong with your site. Thank you, I hate it…

I was thinking about buying a better network device for home and have VLANs and ACLs just to take control of my internet again. It is pretty annoying that Google not only trying to track me everywhere but actively overriding system wide settings to be able to get information what sites I am visiting.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

#398

This should bother people here more than it does. The last thing the Internet needs is even more dependence upon Google. They've made it quite clear through their actions that they're not supporters of a free and open Internet: https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-l... If people don't push back against these kinds of things, Google will continue to abuse their power. There shouldn't be an army o…

Last year I ditched Android and unplugged my Chromecasts. Google's no longer not-being-evil, and I want nothing more to do with them.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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This should bother people here more than it does. The last thing the Internet needs is even more dependence upon Google. They've made it quite clear through their actions that they're not supporters of a free and open Internet: https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-l... If people don't push back against these kinds of things, Google will continue to abuse their power. There shouldn't be an army o…

> This should bother people here more than it does. The last thing the Internet needs is even more dependence upon Google. They've made it quite clear through their actions that they're not supporters of a free and open Internet: https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-l... . Which reminds me of: > Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday called for uncensored Internet access around the world…

But her emails

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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post #60

What I ended up doing to ensure this for any of the devices I have is use pfSense to force all DNS queries to go to my DNS server: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/blocking-dns-...

This may be helpful too: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/redirecting-a...
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