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Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by pseudalopex »

fireattack wrote: post #268
eCa wrote: post #241

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> The first one is the tab research feature. It available for many years in chrome I don't understand why it's still missing in firefox. I can't type "yo [hit tab] my video" to find a video on youtube. If I understand you correctly: In firefox you set this up by 1) Create a bookmark 2) Edit it, and a) insert %s where you want "my video" to go, and b) give it a keyword, e.g. "yo". Now you can use it by typing "yo my v…

I use Fx as my main browser, but the quick search feature in Fx is miles behind Chrome's. 1. In chrome, you don't need to manually add anything; you don't need to assign a keyword that you have to memorize. All the websites that you frequent that support OpenSearch will be automatically added by Chrome and you use their domain as keyword. I can now type en + tab to search on Wikipedia, as well as hundreds of other we…

You can add OpenSearch engines from the "..." menu in the address bar, but it doesn't show an indicator like the search bar.

Suggestions for keyword searches will be fixed in the next release.[1]

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1496814

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by ld00d »

selrond wrote: post #126
iscrewyou wrote: post #111

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Seriously, I don’t understand why there are always complaints of Firefox over using CPU when chrome has same issues.

I haven’t had a single perf problem with Chrome. It seems to be related to the platform - I’m on a Mac

Pretty much the same here. FF has always been a battery eater, and even if only one tab is open, it's the sole app in the "Apps using significant energy".

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by alwillis »

unethical_ban wrote: post #127
belltaco wrote: post #113

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Why would they have considered Firefox over just improving Edge? The problem is that Chrome is extremely dominant, especially on mobile and tablet. And everyone tests against Chrome but not everyone tests on Firefox or Edge(especially web devs on MacOS). If things don't work or look broken, it causes more people to switch to Chrome over Edge/Firefox, turning this into a vicious cycle. The only way to break the cycle…

In political terms: Web browsing dominance is a single member district. Firefox and Chrome are the two major parties, and IE/Opera/Safari are third parties. IE could have gone to Firefox to promote open standards and "back the opposition" so to speak. They chose, instead, the corporate behemoth behind the mobile OS they want a foothold on (presumably).

Firefox and Chrome are the two major parties, and IE/Opera/Safari are third parties.

There’s no way this can be true.

Apple owns various platforms that ship Safari/WebKit and it’s the only option on iOS and watchOS. They’ve shipped more than 2 billion (and growing) iOS devices.

And hundreds of thousands native iOS apps use WebKit views.

So there’s no way Safari is a fringe 3rd party browser and has a better privacy story regarding fingerprinting and tracking than any of the other major browsers, including Firefox.

Unless you’re on the W3C mailing lists and GitHub repos, you wouldn’t know how active the WebKit team is on the development and implementation of web standards.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by baroffoos »

yesimahuman wrote: post #374
k__ wrote: post #269

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I use Firefox on MacOS. It is much slower than Chrome for me (and I don't tend to hold open many tabs or windows). I use Google Mail/Groups/Calendar all day long which became unusable in the last months.

Yea the new gmail on firefox was the reason I switched back to Chrome. I blame google for it but I just couldn't bare the performance in FF

Open your email in thunderbird or move your email somewhere else. This is all part of googles game. They slow down youtube in every other browser as well.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by rcw4256 »

vrazj wrote: post #155
tptacek wrote: post #125

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Does it prioritize privacy? I haven't used Firefox in a long time, so my impressions of it are based on news stories, like them launching a partnership with sketchy VPN services or building in "easter egg" advertisements for television shows.

Don't forget when they sent your data to Cliqz.

Or when they silently installed an extension in order to send telemetry from Firefox installations that had explicitly opted out of telemetry. https://www.ghacks.net/2018/09/21/mozilla-wants-to-estimate-...

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by cbsmith »

I find it very curious that this is being characterized as Microsoft giving control to Google. Chromium is open source; Microsoft isn't ceding any control of what goes into their browser.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by baroffoos »

FooHentai wrote: post #99
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

I just had to switch back to Chrome because firefox couldn't handle multiple (4+) 1080p x264 streams in the same window. Chrome managed to handle 18 of them, across two windows, without a hitch.

How often are you streaming 18 1080p streams at once?

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by microcolonel »

davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

Firefox has had its fair share of debacles this year too. Chrome works better on Linux for me, and Firefox is full of strange and unusual bugs which Mozilla shows little or no interest in fixing.

If Mozilla forked Chromium this year, Firefox would be a better browser (even with the very interesting developments coming from the Servo camp, E10S, etc. etc. etc.). Firefox has accumulated bugs, particularly around their implementation of SVG, since about 4.x, and it doesn't seem to be getting any better on that front.

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