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More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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As long as you are also willing to do the same with alcohol, which I would absolutely argue is a much more damaging drug to both the individual and society at large.

Can you cite any research that would support your argument that alcohol is much more damaging to the individual?

https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/alcohol-poisoning-deaths/inde...

https://www.promises.com/resources/overdose/many-people-died...

Alcohol is just generally a more toxic chemical. People don't get cirrhosis of the liver from smoking too much marijuana. I think if you really wanted to dig into the subject, you'd also find the alcohol is also more addictive and that driving under the influence of alcohol tends to be more dangerous that driving under the influence of cannabis.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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Recommendations?

Experiences produced by particular strain can vary wildly even for the same user, so it boils down to experimenting with different strains in different settings and finding out what works for you. Some users report that mixing strains of "haze" family tends to produce strong closed-eye visuals and mild open-eye ones. If your vision is affected by visual snow ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow ) or you are pr…

>The same focusing technique can work for monotonic sounds - it's quite amusing to observe how fridge's buzz turns into full-blown symphony :).

Ooooh yeah I would get that sometimes...crickets playing electronica, window screens playing bluegrass, and shower faucet playing heavy metal.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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I vehemently disagree, we should absolutely revolt. Show me the non-technological incremental improvements. The US is not a democracy, legislative power is sold to the highest bidder. Legally. Couple that with unregulated capitalism and things are looking quite bleak. Inequality is on the rise and there is no reason to think that trend will reverse. But at least we have iPhones. We're very young as a species. Our cur…

>I vehemently disagree, we should absolutely revolt. You would make things worse. >Show me the non-technological incremental improvements Civil rights, LGBTQ rights, women's suffrage, the rise of the middle class, worker's rights... I could keep going. >Couple that with unregulated capitalism and things are looking quite bleak We don't have unregulated capitalism. Not even close. >Inequality is on the rise and there…

Your appeal to history being cyclical is a statement of blind faith.

The past is not necessarily a good predictor of the future - corps have an unprecedented amount of power over our government.

I'm making a rather specific argument as to why things are going to keep getting worse. I do not accept your general appeal to history as a counter argument to this - we are in new territory.

Why specifically should we expect the trend of increasing corporate power over our legal systems to reverse?

> Civil rights, LGBTQ rights, women's suffrage, the rise of the middle class, worker's rights... I could keep going.

LGBTQ is the only recent development, no corporate interest to fight there and it was still a ridiculous struggle.

I think that the kernel of my disagreement with you is that your argument is rooted in appeals to history. And I think the kernel of my disagreement with this notion is simply that we suck at government.

All of the modern amenities we enjoy ultimately came out of a very effective way of finding things out about the world: empiricism and the scientific method. Until we bring that to bear on systems of governance, I will not be satisfied by any appeal to our current knowledge of how these things work. Because we don't know shit.

The aviation industry is my favorite example of how much we can accomplish with empirical systems engineering. The industry has collectively achieved an absolutely ridiculous standard of safety by carefully analyzing accidents at a systems level. From mechanical failures to user interfaces to pilot training - they consider each level on its own and how they interact. And the result is absolutely incredible.

We could bring these same techniques to bear on our societies. But we don't.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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There is an easy answer though. You do what successful humans have done for thousands of years: - educate yourself - join or form a community that supports each other - fight for your survival like every ancestor in your genetic tree did before you. Life isn't easy. But you also aren't naturally weak. Unfortunately, once you start doing drugs, you risk corrupting the source code of the machine you rely on.

If educating oneself was as easy as you say, there wouldn't be a poverty / education crisis.

An educational crisis would be "all books disappeared". The failure of people to educate themselves is a cultural crisis.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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post #365

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I speak from experience

You are being haplessly Bayesian. Good for you, you made it. Go ahead and draw your statistically insignificant conclusion if you must, but keep it to yourself. Do you also tell depressed people to just not be sad?

lol. Just to recap, my advice was:

- dont do drugs

- educate yourself

- find a support group

- fight for yourself

How is this controversial?

> keep it to yourself

But then who would speak out against fools like you?

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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My point was simply that if doing nothing was men’s natural state, we wouldn’t have progressed to the point where Protestantism (or advertising) was even a thing. What’s a non-anal family? Most families are non-anal if you consider how human reproduction works by I’m not sure that’s what you’re talking about :P

I meant anal, short for "anal retentive" i.e. paranoid about doing things "properly". Your logic makes sense if the Earth were the same everywhere. It breaks down if you understand that New England is fundamentally different from England or Africa. The fact that puritanism thrived says something about New England's natural state in the 1600s. It says nothing about humankind's natural state. Really, the fact that it e…

I didn't make the point that puritanism is men's natural state. I simply made the point that "doing nothing" isn't.
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