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Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch

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Re: Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch

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Post by garfieldnate »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #210
jamesrcole wrote: post #25

I think the term "toots" is spectacularly bad, and could majorly hinder broader uptake of their service. Word of mouth (or 'word of text') is a major way services like this spread. Imagine discussions of Twitter in the media but where the words "tweet" and "tweeted" are replaced with "toot" and "tooted".

The main dev of Mastodon is not American. Toot just means the noise that is made with a trunk, like tweet is supposed to be the same for birds. It's only in the U.S. that 'toot' is some kind of synonym of 'fart' or whatever and I'm honestly tired of Americans imposing their own cultural thinking on everything, instead of trying to actually understand it. The majority of people do not live in the U.S.

If I were targeting a global audience, I would still avoid words that are completely benign in the US like "bloody" and "fanny". It's just common sense to make your language more globally accessible.

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Post by tripzilch »

thevardanian wrote: post #386
ratamacue wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a daily user of Mastadon. But... People were saying this on newsgroups and gopher, then on message boards, then about Friendster and all of the social platforms that followed. If the platform becomes popular enough to reach some sort of critical mass, then that mass will drag along all of the Facebook/Twitter/Instagram stardom with it. Some people actually like their celebrities and they expect to see those celeb…

Yah. Some people like their celebrities, however those celebrities are also now facing competition by other stars which have far greater community outreach, and influence. Who do the kids of today look up to? Those are your next celebrities.

I'm afraid that's "youtubers". Both big international ones like Pewdiepie, as well as more local (national) ones.

Many of these youtubers are actually somewhat surprised about the size of their following and the fact they can actually make a living with the profits from their channel.

I'm not sure if there's any other place besides youtube where they can monetize their channel in such a successful fashion. They don't really talk about how much one earns as a youtuber, and I suppose it varies wildly. But otherwise, they're not really tied to their channel, just tell the fans where you're heading and they follow.

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Post by NoGravitas »

s73v3r_ wrote: post #264
teleclimber wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine, that was technical. But regular people care about being threatened and hateful conduct. On twitter countless reports go unanswered, and it's pretty clear at this point that there is no intent to make the situation better. On Masto when you report someone or a post for being abusive you've got an actual human (your instance admin) who will look at it and actually do something about it (like blocking that user fo…

Mastodon has literally no moderation tools. There is absolutely nothing to prevent impersonation or harassment.

That's incredibly inaccurate. There are a number of different tools available to users, and even more available to instance admins and moderators.

Source: I'm a moderator on anticapitalist.party. AMA.

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Post by quadrangle »

undoware wrote: post #329
quadrangle wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can get behind or at least validate the concerns of everything here except "…bodies who…" If this language aims to show the blunt physical way that others dehumanize the people in question… well, that's not clear. Maybe exploitive actors see others as just "bodies", but that's not a good way to see people. The concept of a "person" is bigger than just their physical body, in the same way that this sentence is bigge…

I used 'bodies' specifically, because that is what we, the precariat, are to the systems that govern our lives. We are warm bodies. Useful for interfacing with other warm bodies. When those bodies cool, they are discarded. Yes, it really is like this. If you doubt me, by all means, come check it out.

Thanks for clarifying. So, if you are writing from the perspective of the dehumanizing system that sees the precariat as mere "bodies", then it is "bodies that…" not "bodies who…"

Re: Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch

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Post by jeffbax »

s73v3r_ wrote: post #279
jeffbax wrote: post #58

I think that Mastodon has a lot going for it, and indeed It think an open source federated system is a great idea I hope to see succeed, but I don't think that RT is the main problem with Twitter. Maybe I'm lucky that few pay attention to me, but I haven't had a lot of trouble making Twitter incredibly, if not the most, useful social network. Its easy to find your interests and fairly simple to ignore/block things yo…

"there are people I disagree with also using this space" Claiming that is what people mean when they claim something is toxic is just as lazy, if not more so. And you’re basically saying that it’s on minority and underrepresented groups to be the one to engage, rather than those that are antagonizing them. Alex Jones is an even more egregious case because he’s gotten in trouble not just because he “said things people…

I understand the bad things Jones does, like the doxxing and maybe that is sufficient enough to ban him (and reasonable in that case), but he's just an extreme example for the slippery slope for speech and censorship that IS already here (and which takes almost no imagination to predict where it will ultimately go) https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1031544806823141376

Additionally, I would rather US companies try to favor behavior honoring the Constitution generally, even though they don't have to.

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