I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report • Hacker News Board

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by wilsonnb » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:20 PM UTC

laken wrote: post #370

wilsonnb wrote: post #285

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Android itself takes up 9GB on my Pixel 2. 4.7GB is taken up by the apps and whatever they are storing (Chrome takes up the most, with 1GB). I also have 4GB in music. I don't consider myself a heavy storage user but 16GB is a really easy bar to cross.

I've noticed on my iOS devices that the more storage available, even with the same amount of apps and data, more storage is taken up. I believe it's due to the fact that apps don't clear caches as often if there's plenty of space left.

That would make sense. I believe many apps, including Chrome and Firefox, do the same thing with RAM. If it's there, might as well use it.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by gervase » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:20 PM UTC

ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

This isn't unique to technology, but can easily be seen in politics, sports, religion, etc. It's just not labelled fanboyism in other domains.

My background is not in psychology, but I suspect is boils down to something like "I've made my decision, don't wish to admit I am wrong, and will therefore vociferously defend my position against all comers, as well as attack those who disagree with me."

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by danmg » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:21 PM UTC

ruirr wrote: post #380

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Strange. My 2012 iMac and MBA are humming along just fine. And they're refurbs. My "bought as new" stuff has been just fine as well. I still have an iPhone 5s that, save for the old battery, works normally. I haven't encountered a bricked phone via an updated iOS, but I have had android folks who weren't running flagships try to get the latest OS, and brick their phones. Lastly, when I do have an issue, the apple cus…

I do agree that Macs are built with quality. After the 5S, iPhones are not worth the premium you pay for them.

Take a look at what someone who repairs them on a regular basis says about Apple's quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUaJ8pDlxi8 .

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by xxs » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:22 PM UTC

bena wrote: post #365

Analemma_ wrote: post #354

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> What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on their bank account. I don't approve of platform fanboyism myself, but there is more to it than this. Loyalty to a platform often comes from approving of that company's particular business model and wanting to see it succeed over the others for moral reasons. iOS fans like A…

I think Android fans like the idea of total control more than the actual application of it. Most of what I've seen are people who just change the system font. I know there are some people out there who are doing really cool things, but they are in the minority. The majority of the fanboys are people who parrot the line but instead don't do anything "the other side" doesn't do. I'm familiar with my ecosystem of choice…

>>Most of what I've seen are people who just change the system font.

I like Firefox with all of its extensions. Even a free iphone can't come close.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by alexozer » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

I recently installed an Arch Linux chroot on my Android phone, full access to the filesystem and all. There's absolutely no way you could do anything like that on iPhone without some serious jailbreaking.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by 120bits » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:27 PM UTC

hocuspocus wrote: post #390

120bits wrote: post #386

I switched to iPhone for many reasons, but the main reason was SERVICE. I owned a HTC and then Samsung. I had issues with both the phones at some point in time. Yes things can go bad. I can't take my android phone to a local store to get it fixed. I need to send the phone to them, get a backup phone, port all my contacts to the other phone. But if I have a issue with my iPhone all I need to do is book an appointment…

With a Nexus or Pixel, all you'd have to do is contact the customer service and wait for your replacement device. I never really understood the love for booking appointments and going in person to crowded Apple stores.

Some people like it. I dropped my iPhone and took an hour to replace the screen(went around the mall for a walk), not sure I can do the same with Pixel/HTC/Samsung.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by rupertdev » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:30 PM UTC

jimmy1 wrote: post #363

tjoff wrote: post #192

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Royally disagree with the headphone jack. That is a huge issue that I don't ever see an end to. You never know when you need a headphone jack and there is no realistic way to carry an adapter all the time. And that is even if I'm willing to buy $100 worth of worthless adapters and do my best to sprinkle them out in my life. Friends car? Stereo in the summer vacation house? Buying bluetooth headphones doesn't mitigate…

> Friends car? Stereo in the summer vacation house? I regret finally "jumping ship" and getting an Iphone 8 plus soley because of this. I am experiencing the exact same thing with the f___king stupid MBP and needing to carry a dongle on me at all times in order to present. It's absolutely infuriating. After holding off for so long (Iphone 8 plus was my first iphone), and having androids since Samsung Galaxy S3, my re…

Check out GBoard for iOS, it's the google keyboard that supports swype

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by dspillett » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:39 PM UTC

wilsonnb wrote: post #269

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The problem is that people want a headphone jack. More stereos and cars don't have BT than do (significantly many more in my experience). Bluetooth pairing is a faf compared to just plugging in a jack, and many devices still only remember pairing with two devices or just one so your friend may have to repair when you are done. Double adaptors (I still see people sharing a single audio source on headphones that way) a…

The real answer here is to use the lightning -> 3.5mm adapter which comes with the iPhone, I believe.

IIRC you can't charge at the same time as using the included one, and need to pay extra for the bulkier one that allows charging and use of a 3.5mm jack at the same time.

That is OK much of the time, but a faf is you want use your iDevice for music while working for some hours or while mobile for long enough that you might normally plug in a portable battery.

Unless they've started including the two function adaptor as standard but that will irritate people who don't want the extra bulk...

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by TylerE » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:43 PM UTC

zolthrowaway wrote: post #340

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Almost every modern car now has USB or bluetooth, even cheap entry level compact cars. > Friends car? Stereo in the summer vacation house? Bluetooth speakers are pretty much ubiquitous nowadays. I don't think I've seen an aux cord in 2 years. Why should a tech company design for old tech? Do you also dislike monitors that don't have VGA just in case? I'm not saying there are scenarios where that would be an issue. Bu…

Bluetooth is lossy compression. There are plenty of reasons to still stick with AUX and the 3.5mm jack. It does make a difference in sound quality. Additionally if I'm traveling and forget my headphones, it will cost me $5 to get a pair to get me through the week. Bluetooth headphones are more expensive. There is a guy who was able to fit a 3.5mm jack in his iPhone X. They just chose not to do it. It's not like havin…

The reason the headphone jack had to die was so they could waterproof it.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by tjoff » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:46 PM UTC

wilsonnb wrote: post #316

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So that draws power and does that work with all phones? That's quite the "workaround".

It will work with any phone or PC with a USB C port as long as the OS supports USB audio devices. As far as I know, all the major OS's support those. Even iOS if you have a lightning -> USB adapter. Technically it draws power but it's not going to use more power than an internal headphone jack does. They are both just a DAC and a small headphone amp. The only difference is that one is inside the device and one is out…

"It will work". Just as bluetooth? Humanity has serious issues getting serial to work over USB, yet this will just work? Across all OSes? We can't even make USB-C CABLES correctly, but THIS is a sure thing? Even the cheap ones everyone will buy? Or the expensive ones that has the same hardware but a nicer box/cable?

We won't have apple compatible cables, android compatible cables etc.? We won't have situations where that popular brand of "cables" doesn't work on new Samsungs/xxx?

Let's pretend that will be the case this time around?

Honestly I think audio enthusiasts are the only users for which that isn't the most absurd idea ever. Audio enthusiasts could use a decent DAC and for the first time combine regular hardware (wide selection of phones) and still get decent output. For everyone else though a headphone jack would be several orders of magnitudes better and cheaper. And guess what, it just works. I know people have done their darndest to make the microphone over 3.5mm experience as miserable as possible but despite that we still have/had a universal way to transmit stereo audio.

There are no decent alternatives even on the horizon. There haven't been brought up a single argument for the removal of it other than it isn't so bad to spend 10% of the device on adapters that you always need to carry. Seriously?