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Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by sundvor » Fri, Jan 05, 2018, 9:34 PM UTC

suprfnk wrote: post #360

sundvor wrote: post #224

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Beautiful machine. Whilst my primary is now a 6 core/32gb desktop, my laptop is the OG X1 Carbon from 2011. I was waiting for the initial release and might have been the first to order it in Australia. It is still looking great today (chassis looks as if it could be just a few weeks old, true I've looked after it but it's also just that solid/high quality panels), although the new is of course hugely improved. Their…

> expected to have 4/8c which will be fantastic What do you mean by "4/8c"?

4 cores (8 hyperthreaded)

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by abiox » Fri, Jan 05, 2018, 10:31 PM UTC

i really wish there was a 15".

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Post by tajen » Sat, Jan 06, 2018, 1:07 AM UTC

I’m kind of blocked from buying an Ubuntu laptop because I want to do video editing for Youtube too. iMovie is free on the Mac, is there even a $300 software on Ubuntu that would be suitable?

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by mancerayder » Sat, Jan 06, 2018, 1:24 AM UTC

cryptoz wrote: post #383

jhasse wrote: post #373

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> This voids the warranty of the machine. That shouldn't be the case: http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/44... > You also do not get their professional support this way Why not? How do they know you got one with Windows if your invoice says Linux?

I purchased the computer as my first computer to do work on for my startup. Item number 1 is not going to be: reformat the computer, risking the warranty, reinstalling the OS, removing the professional support that I have wanted my whole life but never received, and spend weekends getting WiFi to work with an external card since there's no way the WiFi would work on the Ubuntu install on the Windows machine, I was to…

I understand the frustration but it seemed like you're overreacting: it's not hard to install Ubuntu, in fact it's preferable (if you ask me) so you can choose packages.

I also don't think it would void support - then no one could re-install. And how would they know you re-installed anyway?

Honestly Linux might be a pain for you to use day-to-day if installing from scratch seems like a big chore; either that OR you're misreading how Dell support would react. The third possibility is that Dell support is disastrously bad, and fragile, and no one should buy Dells. I'm slightly skeptical of option 3.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by api_or_ipa » Sat, Jan 06, 2018, 2:14 AM UTC

inertial wrote: post #337

api_or_ipa wrote: post #38

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Which lenovo product would you recommend for a linux laptop?

Ubuntu on Thinkpad T series works well, e.g. https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201702-25371/ They are rugged and have a good keyboard. You can find a brand new at 70% of a Dell XPS price (at Lenovo's outlet / eBay / BHPhotovideo).

Woah I didn't know Canonical certifies Ubuntu on certain hardware. That's incredible, I love linux but I'm not a sysadmin and I've been burned before by hardware manufactures publishing windows-only driver binaries.

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Post by dontbuyanxps » Sat, Jan 06, 2018, 11:21 AM UTC

I bought an XPS 13 with Ubuntu preinstalled. Had trouble with a loud fan as well as the headphone jack not functioning correctly when using any headphones with a headset. Spent quite a bit of time troubleshooting with tech support and was ultimately told, otr, that the computers are shoddily manufactured and I'd be better off with a Latitude. Switched, still not thrilled about the battery but it works well otherwise!

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Post by paulmd » Sat, Jan 06, 2018, 1:56 PM UTC

metaphor wrote: post #215

paulmd wrote: post #117

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Coil whine can easily be tested with this website (probably not a good link if you have epilepsy or Chiari malformations) https://thume.ca/screentunes/ In my experience virtually all LCD displays have it to some degree, you just don't notice it except with certain patterns (like that one) that interact with the scanout mechanism.

To be sure, what you're hearing from that website is not coil whine (inductor phenomena), but mechanical resonance caused by piezoelectric effect on solid state MLCCs[1] charging/discharging in your monitor during frame refresh. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic_capacitor#Microphony

In common parlance, I'm not sure there's a distinction between coil whine and capacitor whine. That is probably not something you can distinguish without taking apart the component in question.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by dangrossman » Sat, Jan 06, 2018, 6:33 PM UTC

spatular wrote: post #375

sowbug wrote: post #303

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There are 3 in my family, a 9350 and two 9360s. All work fine. I represent the majority of people who have no reason to write anything about their computers because there's nothing to say.

I also own 9360 with 1080p panel for half a year. The only thing that bothered me was adaptive brightness (CABC) that was fixed in my case with an unofficial panel firmware at some risk to brick the device. Coil whine is perceptable only if I keep ear close to the keyboard. No other problems. If there is someone from Dell here: please fix CABC! Unofficial patch proves that it can be done. It's especially important fo…

Adaptive brightness is a Windows setting you can change in the Power Options control panel. Click 'Change plan settings' next to your chosen power plan, click 'Change advanced settings', click 'Display', click 'Enable adaptive brightness' and change it to off.

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Post by aidenn0 » Sat, Jan 06, 2018, 7:26 PM UTC

maxxxxx wrote: post #69

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Then a 13" ultrabook is probably not the right thing for you; search for "mobile workstation" on any of the major manufacturers sites and you'll find ones that can be configured up to 64GB of ram.

I like 13" laptops. They are easy to carry around and I can hook up an external screen.

MSI is the only company I know of with 32GB in a 13" laptop. No clue if they boot linux.

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Post by spatular » Sat, Jan 06, 2018, 8:28 PM UTC

dangrossman wrote: post #398

spatular wrote: post #375

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I also own 9360 with 1080p panel for half a year. The only thing that bothered me was adaptive brightness (CABC) that was fixed in my case with an unofficial panel firmware at some risk to brick the device. Coil whine is perceptable only if I keep ear close to the keyboard. No other problems. If there is someone from Dell here: please fix CABC! Unofficial patch proves that it can be done. It's especially important fo…

Adaptive brightness is a Windows setting you can change in the Power Options control panel. Click 'Change plan settings' next to your chosen power plan, click 'Change advanced settings', click 'Display', click 'Enable adaptive brightness' and change it to off.

I don't have windows installed, but it's highly unlikely that it'll help. This feature is baked into panel firmware, and while Dell releases firmware updates for some models, there is no official fix for 9360 FHD. For models with the fix there are two versions of firmware: with CABC support and without. Switching requires firmware reflash with a special vendor tool. So it's unlikely that there is a dynamic setting to switch it off.