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A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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I pay ten dollars a gallon for fresh non pasteurized milk from a local family that has seven cows. I don't buy a lifestyle from them, I buy fucking good milk from animals that are loved like family, and I'm proud to be helping them make a living doing something that is good for everyone(including the cows). It's not a lifestyle, it's just supporting people who aren't shitting on everyone's future.

Reading most of the replies here reminds me the gun debate. It’s one side that has experience with said subject and the other side that has zero. And they argue. Some posters don’t believe there is any difference between eggs from a small farm where the chickens roam the yard eating naturally and Tyson sized operations where they are all cooped in a mountain together. Ethics of the two approaches aside I grew up in a…

>milk at the store which is watery, chalk colored, sweetened with sugar, and lacks any cream.

Isn't that because milk at the store has been homogenized?

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Lots of exciting things going on in this space. There is also an Open Source Movement that came out of the MiT Media Lab, called OpenAg (https://www.media.mit.edu/groups/open-agriculture-openag/ove...) which has created a platform for folks like our company, Open Agriculture Supply (https://www.openagriculturesupply.com/) to create "Food Computers" which are climate controlled boxes that grow food for you indoors.

All open source, all on the same platform.

The future of farming is indoors, distributed, hyper local, and vertical.

Also check out the book that started it all "The Vertical Farm" by Dr. Dickson Despommier,

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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I am doing pretty much the same. I am currently an engineering student, working part-time as a programmer. Although the job market for programmers is excellent in Europe, I bought an apple orchard (via loan) pretty close to the capital of the country where I live. Due to the proximity of the capital city, I can sell my product at a decent price and earn more than an average senior dev here. I also enjoy being outside…

Hello, Here at Open Agriculture Supply (https://www.openagriculturesupply.com/) we are a company working at the intersection of technology and agriculture, using the Open Agriculture Platform from MiT to deliver the next generation of Food Production, Agricultural, and Agtech products to reality. Given your unique background in both software development and agriculture we would love to work with you to help develop and refine our own products as well as support you with any potential needs, ideas, and development activities you may have in mind. Please contact us at info@openagriculturesupply.com if you would like to talk further. Happy Farming!

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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We did this. My wife has a masters in microbio, and I worked at IBM on their C++ and for Fortran compilers for about 8 years (yay std::atomics). I still do remote contract work to help pay for upgrades to the farm. Would be nice to get one of my side-projects finished and start pumping out some income streams, but it's not a big rush anymore. I have a point of sale system built with React and Haskell that integrates…

Hello, Here at Open Agriculture Supply (https://www.openagriculturesupply.com/) we are a company working at the intersection of technology and agriculture, using the Open Agriculture Platform from MiT to deliver the next generation of Food Production, Agricultural, and Agtech products to reality. Given your unique background in both software development and agriculture we would love to work with you to help develop and refine our own products as well as support you with any potential needs, ideas, and development activities you may have in mind. Please contact us at info@openagriculturesupply.com if you would like to talk further. Happy Farming!

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Some commentators here have difficulty of understanding how small farming can be profitable. It's relatively easy to explain. They are not selling just the product. Just like microbreweries, small farms sell for people who want more than just a beer or lettuce. They want to distinguish themselves and buy the feeling of authentic life and values. Consumer pays more for "small farm" even if the product is not any diffe…

Any developers have aquaponics systems setup? I've been thinking of doing this.

Lots of exciting things going on in this space. There is also an Open Source Movement that came out of the MiT Media Lab, called OpenAg (https://www.media.mit.edu/groups/open-agriculture-openag/ove...) which has created a platform for folks like our company, Open Agriculture Supply (https://www.openagriculturesupply.com/) to create "Food Computers" which are climate controlled boxes that grow food for you indoors. All open source, all on the same platform. The future of farming is indoors, distributed, hyper local, and vertical. Also check out the book that started it all "The Vertical Farm" by Dr. Dickson Despommier.

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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We did this. My wife has a masters in microbio, and I worked at IBM on their C++ and for Fortran compilers for about 8 years (yay std::atomics). I still do remote contract work to help pay for upgrades to the farm. Would be nice to get one of my side-projects finished and start pumping out some income streams, but it's not a big rush anymore. I have a point of sale system built with React and Haskell that integrates…

> I like working from home and having no childcare expenses. I worry that with a young child, we'd still have childcare expenses - except that instead of paying with money, we'd be paying with our time. My wife and I discovered, like many parents probably do, that raising a child is fucking hard. We love her, we wouldn't trade her for the world, and it's fun, but it's the kind of fun you have while camping, or hiking…

I imagine raising a child on a farm is much different from raising a child in a city.

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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We did this. My wife has a masters in microbio, and I worked at IBM on their C++ and for Fortran compilers for about 8 years (yay std::atomics). I still do remote contract work to help pay for upgrades to the farm. Would be nice to get one of my side-projects finished and start pumping out some income streams, but it's not a big rush anymore. I have a point of sale system built with React and Haskell that integrates…

> I like working from home and having no childcare expenses. I worry that with a young child, we'd still have childcare expenses - except that instead of paying with money, we'd be paying with our time. My wife and I discovered, like many parents probably do, that raising a child is fucking hard. We love her, we wouldn't trade her for the world, and it's fun, but it's the kind of fun you have while camping, or hiking…

> I worry that with a young child, we'd still have childcare expenses - except that instead of paying with money, we'd be paying with our time.

You don't pay income tax on your time. That's the advantage of doing yourself what you would otherwise pay for with after-tax income.

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You really have to love living in a rural area to be happy there.

I grew up in a mid-west city and move to LA when I was 14. I lived in Hollywood, West Hills, and Malibu. I decided to leave when I was 29. The people I knew in LA all thought I was crazy when I told them where I was moving.

I researched places to live for a few months before leaving and I've been where I considered the best place to be is since then, for about 25 years now.

I moved to a rural area for the same reason "clord" did, "Quality of life". Where one finds that is up to them but that should really be the focus, not a job title or pay.

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Beeing outside for long stretches might sound healthy, but at the end of day gives you skin-cancer. Source of Information: Scar over my eye, where the doctor cut out the summers harvest of pesticide resistant weeds in uv-rays.

Skin cancer is generally much easier to treat though than all the other internal cancers people can get from vitamin D deficiency... Also, something to think about: http://dermatologytimes.modernmedicine.com/dermatology-times... "Researchers at the Queensland Institute of Medical Research (QIMR) have revealed that they are finding more instances of melanoma in office workers than people who work outdoors..."

I might have missed it from just quickly looking at that source, but what do they think is causing this increase of melanoma in office workers?

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>There's a massive difference in taste You feel that way, but all evidence says otherwise. >and an objective measure that correlates well with this - namely, the thickness of the collagen sheath just underneath the shell Measuring that is objective, but there is no evidence it correlates with taste at all. >(eggs being single cells.) I honestly don't know how to say this nicely. You expect people to take your pseudo-…

> The yolk, the white and the membranes are all not part of the single cell ovum. Do these contribute additional cells to the egg that must be counted?

"Another person's consciousness is inaccessible because it's in a different universe. Only the matter part of that is projected in your universe, not the actual identity. Without a hypothesis like this, we are left with postulating hidden variables: some hidden context pointer which resolves to you or me or such." huh? please tell me this stupid shit was an analogy
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