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Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by tw04 »

eclipxe wrote: post #21

People are missing this: "With the Alexa App, conversations and contacts go where you go. When you’re away from home, use the app to make a quick call or send a message to your family’s Echo. Alexa calling and messaging is free—to get started download the Alexa App." Alexa is now in the messaging and communication game. https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/09/amazon-enables-free-calls-...

How, in 2017, has Amazon not learned that messaging that doesn't extend to the PC is useless. Could you enter a more crowded market without any differentiation to speak of?

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by tw04 »

dkrich wrote: post #251
mikeash wrote: post #90

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Are we ever going to see unity between these services, or are we doomed to have little walled-off fiefdoms forever? A phone number works anywhere in the world, to anywhere in the world, with anyone who has a phone. All e-mail providers work with each other. I don't care who you're with, and I wouldn't even have to know except it's usually part of the address. SMS works no matter which provider we both have. It feels…

Agreed, and that's why I think iMessage and (BBM when people were using Blackberry's) are the best version of this. Two people with Apple devices can seamlessly take advantage of the Apple ecosystem or switch to SMS when communicating with a person who doesn't have an Apple device.

I think you mean hangouts (as it was), which extended beyond the apple paywall onto PC desktops, mac desktops, linux desktops, chromebooks, android, and IOS. Too bad google can't get out of their own way and has started deprecating it with no replacement in site.

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by hbosch »

dexterdog wrote: post #347
hbosch wrote: post #207

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This is the new "home phone".

What's the point of a home phone when everybody in the home already has a personal phone? We don't call houses. We call people.

When I talk to my mother or father, we both put each other on speakerphone. On my end, my wife and I can both talk at the sime time... on their end, they can also have multiple people talking at the same time. This is a 2-endpoint call with 2+n users.

All Echos have better mics and better sound than my cellphone for this use.

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by ilyaeck »

tw04 wrote: post #391
eclipxe wrote: post #21

People are missing this: "With the Alexa App, conversations and contacts go where you go. When you’re away from home, use the app to make a quick call or send a message to your family’s Echo. Alexa calling and messaging is free—to get started download the Alexa App." Alexa is now in the messaging and communication game. https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/09/amazon-enables-free-calls-...

How, in 2017, has Amazon not learned that messaging that doesn't extend to the PC is useless. Could you enter a more crowded market without any differentiation to speak of?

Echo is the new PC (for its target audience/use case).

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by ksenzee »

dexterdog wrote: post #347
hbosch wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the new "home phone".

What's the point of a home phone when everybody in the home already has a personal phone? We don't call houses. We call people.

I quite often call a house, or wish I could. We eat dinner with my mom most nights, and my grandma if she cares to come. "Whoever's there: dinner's ready!" is a message we have to send to their house, every day, and all we have to do it with is their two cell phones. I'm counting the days until we can call their Echo Dot instead.

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by ghaff »

narrowrail wrote: post #380
ghaff wrote: post #373

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>so poorly maintained that in a couple years you'll need to buy a new TV. I think they consider that a feature. For the record, I absolutely agree as a consumer that TVs just need to be awesome display panels with a recent remote and sufficient inputs. But I understand why the manufacturers may not want to buy into that.

When money is no object, you have to get a commercial display (like this [0], w/ 55" class (54.6" diagonal) Edge-Lit LED IPS Digital - $1350MSRP). Otherwise, something like a Vizio P series (which has an embedded chromecast) is good if you turn-off the wifi radio and/or never give it your AP's credentials. I grew up with a TV that would immediately turn-on when you pressed the button (you could even hear an audible s…

I have one of the last Panasonic Plasmas. Actually two of them in different sizes. I'd be hard pressed to justify replacing while they still work. Though an LG OLED did turn my head a bit when I walked into a Best Buy last month.

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by sah2ed »

dexterdog wrote: post #347
hbosch wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the new "home phone".

What's the point of a home phone when everybody in the home already has a personal phone? We don't call houses. We call people.

You are forgetting an important demographic of many households who do not yet have personal phones but are perfectly capable of communicating verbally: small children.

Amazon is betting on these children growing up with an Echo in the home which can be a nice way to catch up with your kids' activities while still at work or on your way home.

Child: "Alexa, record a message for mom."

Alexa: "Recording message."

Child: "Mummy, don't be late. But you promised to undo my hair when you return from work. My head hurts."

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by umeshunni »

sah2ed wrote: post #397
dexterdog wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the point of a home phone when everybody in the home already has a personal phone? We don't call houses. We call people.

You are forgetting an important demographic of many households who do not yet have personal phones but are perfectly capable of communicating verbally: small children. Amazon is betting on these children growing up with an Echo in the home which can be a nice way to catch up with your kids' activities while still at work or on your way home. Child: "Alexa, record a message for mom." Alexa: "Recording message." Child:…

Also, old people and seniors who have trouble using small cellphones.

Ever tried using FaceTime or Skype with poor vision/ dexterity?

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by tw04 »

ilyaeck wrote: post #394
tw04 wrote: post #391

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How, in 2017, has Amazon not learned that messaging that doesn't extend to the PC is useless. Could you enter a more crowded market without any differentiation to speak of?

Echo is the new PC (for its target audience/use case).

Based on my admittedly small sample size: that couldn't be further from the truth. Every person I know who has an echo is a techie or their significant other is a techie. Those people all expect their communication platform of choice to span all of their devices.

My mom doesn't have an echo, doesn't know what an echo is, and probably wouldn't ever spend the money on one even if she did. She's about the only person in my life that would EVER consider an Echo to be "the new PC". And quite frankly I can't imagine her giving up her laptop for one of these in a million years.

Re: Amazon Echo Show

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Post by alttab »

anonymousthx wrote: post #270
mholmes680 wrote: post #180

Its interesting to see how fast Amazon can come to market with these new hardware pieces. I guess the fallout of the Amazon Phone at least had some lessons learned in hardware suppliers, etc... I realize they're throwing hardware out there prior to seeing what the software can do with it, but I think its necessary to get people locked in. I like their approach from the business perspective. Give the people a voice co…

They started working on this late 2014 / early 2015. Work started on Look in late 2015. Source: ;)

you created this account just to tell us that? Was it worth it?
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